so back to the basic question would any of you consider an fd rx7 a mid engined car?
so back to the basic question would any of you consider an fd rx7 a mid engined car?
There's no replacement for displacement (lol)
i thought
mid engined- the engine behind the driver, and not on a transaxle
rear engined- sit on the rear transaxle
front engined- fixed mostly over the front axle
There's no replacement for displacement (lol)
^ yeah not forgetting referring to it as mid-rear might get people confused with mid engined, rear wheel drive terminology
Andreas Preuninger, Manager of Porsche High Performance Cars: "Grandmas can use paddles. They aren't challenging."
Offtopic, but there is a rumour that the mid engined Porsche Cayman is purposely sold with a lesser powered engine than 911s because it would outperform Porche's flagship model.
i never understood that. the GT2 laps the same time as the mid engined carrera GT, what would they expect to do with a cayman?
outperform base 911's i could understand, but flagship model? lol.
Andreas Preuninger, Manager of Porsche High Performance Cars: "Grandmas can use paddles. They aren't challenging."
Marketing post whoring I say.
Obviously a well tuned (not talking about the after market) Cayman with a powerful engine could outperform many 911 versions.
In the same way a well tuned 911, the GT2 is as fast as the carbon fiber Carrera GT (which is also 5 year older).
As with kids wondering about R34s with NOS stuff, yes, they will outrun an Enzo. And guess what? if you put that stuff in the Enzo it will outrun them once again (while exploding in the distance).
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But aren't rear engined Porsches ultimately flawed? I know that rear engined cars have great traction. I've always thought that the only reason it works is because of Porsche engineering genius. And changing the engine layout for a future 911, it just would not be a 911 would it.
I considered buying an old Alfa but it is a risk I'm not going to take!
They say that because the 3.4 that the 996 Carrera in 1997 is apparently less powerful than the 3.4 that the Cayman S has. No word on torque, power delivery or emmisions regs as far as I know though. Also, something along the lines of the Cayman S doesn't have an LSD because it'd be faster than a 911 if it did. Tinfoil hats everyone, it's conspiracy theory time!
Think about it. On paper a mid engined car has more advantages than a rear engined one. But the 911 is a legend that Porsche does not want to destroy.
ok then an F430 could be faster than the 599 GTB...oh wait, it is!
What can't happen is that a similarly priced car outruns the slightly pricer one.
No one at Ferrari will tell you that the MC12 is faster and more powerful than the Enzo, even if they know it's so (damn, they designed it so). Let alone admitting the GranTurismo Trofeo is faster than the F430 Challenge with at least another year or two for the latter before of being updated with the 458.
The Cayman is on paper an excellent car and quite a disappointment on the street. For as good as it can be, it always misses something, being more power, or more personality.
So if the plan was not to harm the 911, they ended up wasting the opportunity of building one of the best decently priced sportscar.
Even the Boxter used to be more popular before of the Cayman.
Aston Martin could have created just a big mess with all those similarly looking and performing cars from the V8 and DB9 up to the DBS and V12, but they managed to differentiate them with first of all different prices, and also balancing the number of cars available with those actually requested, generating more and more interest for the next reveal.
At the end of the day AM is selling relatively plenty of cars.
Porsche raised a lot of attention with the Cayman even before it was unveiled, but right after that, it just felt in the drawer of forgotten things.
All the 911 updates, the Cayenne and Panamera became the only target of the brand.
Poor marketing from this point of view I'd say.
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Directly from the Lexus LFA press release.
Front midship engine.
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