The Day of Victory

[gonzo]

today, the 9th of May Russia celebrates The Day of Victory in the Second World War. There are a lot of patriotic films on TV (no only russian), different programs. We had a military parade in the mornig and a salute in the evening. Tell about how does your country celebrate this day, when it is celebrating. May be yuo know something interesting about this war?

[megotmea7]

to tell you the truth we really dont celebrate it, are you refering to when russia droped out of the war after germany was defeted or the japanese camaigns also?

[henk4]

Here in Kyrgyzstan they also celebrated, and I saw part of the Moscow parade on TV. I also saw rhe Grozny parade. It seems not everybody feels liberated!!

[crisis]

to tell you the truth we really dont celebrate it, are you refering to when russia droped out of the war after germany was defeted or the japanese camaigns also?

It comes as little surprise it is not celebrated in the US. Its a bit harsh to say Russia "dropped out of the war after Germany." They did take a bit of a hiding.

[junaman]

As none of you actually know, I was born in Russia and came to Australia only in 1995. I heard about the land mine in the Grozny stadium on the news and how the Chechnian President died. I wonder what will happen in relations between Russia and Chechnya now?

[gonzo]

As none of you actually know, I was born in Russia and came to Australia only in 1995. I heard about the land mine in the Grozny stadium on the news and how the Chechnian President died. I wonder what will happen in relations between Russia and Chechnya now?

I think nothing will happen in our relations. It is only another terrible terrorist attack. Two years ago at this day in Chechnya 40 humans died on military parade after terrorist attack.


And about Victory i think that rusiian-german front was the main in Second World War. More than 20 milllion russian people died. Do you know any country, which had so mush victims?

[henk4]

to tell you the truth we really dont celebrate it, are you refering to when russia droped out of the war after germany was defeted or the japanese camaigns also?

Sorry, I had not properly read this comment before, but it were actually the Russians that dealt the decisive blow to the German army, (remember Stalingrad, it's on Discovery TV very regularly), with great loss of human life. Everywhere in Europe liberation day is celebrated, because it offcially meant the end of a five year German occupation. As the USA has never been occupied, and only once directly attacked (Pearl Harbour) there is obviously less need to celebrate the end of the war.

[henk4]

I think nothing will happen in our relations. It is only another terrible terrorist attack. Two years ago at this day in Chechnya 40 humans died on military parade after terrorist attack.

Other sources would say that it is the justified revenge on a person that defected from the Chechnya freedom fighters and joined forces with the Russian occupation power. History will prove which version will endure.

[gonzo]

Other sources would say that it is the justified revenge on a person that defected from the Chechnya freedom fighters and joined forces with the Russian occupation power. History will prove which version will endure.

Chechnya always was russian region. Russian forces didn't occupate it. After perestroyka different crime groups began their activity. They kidnapped people (not only russian) and hijacked all this region. As you know there is a lot of oil in Chechnya. So russian forces began to free Chechnya. First war ended in 1996. Situation after it didn't change. Second war began in 1999 and ended in 2000, but the situation in region didn't stable. Every month separatist groups kill people. Yesterday explosion show that it isn't truth about peace in this republic.

[cls12vg30]

Here in the U.S. it's known as V-E Day, for Victory in Europe. V-J day, Victory over Japan, is in August. These dates are marked on some calenders, but not really widely celebrated, just sort of noted. The big holiday is Memorial Day, which honors all veterans, it's always the Monday after the last weekend in May, and is the traditional kickoff of summer. Lots of parades to honor veterans, everybody's off work, people traditionally have family gatherings, cookouts, etc.

[crisis]

Henk is right. If you did not live in Europe in WWII you only have part of the story. The US and Australia and many other participating nations lost many soldiers , but we did not have to endure the horrors on in our homes.

[henk4]

Chechnya always was russian region. Russian forces didn't occupate it. After perestroyka different crime groups began their activity. They kidnapped people (not only russian) and hijacked all this region. As you know there is a lot of oil in Chechnya. So russian forces began to free Chechnya. First war ended in 1996. Situation after it didn't change. Second war began in 1999 and ended in 2000, but the situation in region didn't stable. Every month separatist groups kill people. Yesterday explosion show that it isn't truth about peace in this republic.

I do not necessarily disagree with you, I only wanted to indicate that other people involved might give a totally different story. In the unlikely case that Chechnya will separate from Russia, then that is going to be the version that is considered the truth.

[mr bill]

Salute!

Comrades!

[megotmea7]

to tell you the truth we really dont celebrate it, are you refering to when russia droped out of the war after germany was defeted or the japanese camaigns also?

i didnt mean that in any disrespect or downplay to russias loss during WWII nor did i imply it was the US that defeated germany, i was just wondering what he considered "the end of the war" from a russian point of view as cls12 pointed out with VE day and VJ day. i am familiar with the events of WWII as they are pounded into our heads as kids, and further educated by channels such as the history channel(which basicaly covers the world wars and the ocasional revolution or so), and the discovery channel.

[Misho]

I dont wanna be the smart ass of the thread, but i kinda beleive in the "there are no winners in war" theory. you might end up with a temporary victory and a final condition that is better than the opponent, but can u really call it victory ?
yet i also beleive that wars are necessary sometimes, its a puzzling issue really.