Quote Originally Posted by RacingManiac View Post
Then you are missing a lot....GT4 has decent feel of when the grip drops off the tire when you steer past the peak of self aligning torque, which is the most important aspect of simulating the steering effect. All that shaking and rattling is secondary to that. I haven't tried enthusia, so I can't comment, but as an experience GT4 is good enough for a console. Which I expect GT5 to be at least as good, and hopefully better...

Fanatec wheel is getting good review for PC, but the wheel is just part of it, since it never had a good wheel before who knows if Xbox360/Forza's FFB code is any good....but at least its a start...
even without a wheel, I managed to lap the 'Ring in 6:58 in a stock Zonda S, and a second or two slower in a stock Ford GT and stock MB SLR, so I think I perceived when there was grip and when there wasn't.
GT4 was on the top of my list until I tried something else.
I gave it a try, after I think a ywar or even more, last week. A complete fail.
Read my previous post for its major issues, imo.