Free and then I could look after my own safety.
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Free and then I could look after my own safety.
I don't think either extreme would be any good. There's little joy to be had from a life of constant fear and danger as well. At first i thought i would go with freedom, but i figured i take my current safety for granted.
EDIT: Of course i would love to be completely free but i think after trying both i would have to go with safety.
Just to complicate matters... Can someone define "freedom" for me? ie: What is freedom?
[QUOTE=kingofthering;781479]Fine. Give me freedom and a shotgun. :D[/QUOTE]
The old shotgun and porch strategy eh?
[QUOTE=motorsportnerd;781502]Just to complicate matters... Can someone define "freedom" for me? ie: What is freedom?[/QUOTE]
I don't want to define freedom, but to quote Team America - World Police: "Freedom isn't free."
Freedom = $1.05
[QUOTE=motorsportnerd;781502]Just to complicate matters... Can someone define "freedom" for me? ie: What is freedom?[/QUOTE]
Freedom is doing what you want until you interfere with somebody else doing what he wants...
FREEDOM !
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AND safe ... do you really want to mess with the Scots ? :)
End thread for William Wallace.
Free. Being 100% safe is damn boring, as a rule.
[QUOTE=Matra et Alpine;781669]FREEDOM !
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AND safe ... do you really want to mess with the Scots ? :)[/QUOTE]
oh dear...i like scotland but do you have to do the whole braveheart thing? It was mostly invented by Mel Gibson and too many people think we scots all live in Fort William, eat poridge, wear kilts all the time and play the bagpipes! Some people would say that today Scoltands independance is trivial compared with the economic benefits of being linked with the south.
the only way to be safe and free is to live of the grid. my dad said (when we stayed in Glenshee) there was someone who lived on the hillside, done cash in hand work, had no national insurance number etc - and noone knew his name....hes not the stig :D
[quote=jediali;781697]oh dear...i like scotland but do you have to do the whole braveheart thing?[/quote]
In making jokes about Freedom and our ability to beat sh!t out of folks who try to remove it :) YES :)
[quote] It was mostly invented by Mel Gibson[/quote]
Actually it was mostly invented by Victorian romantics.
[quote] and too many people think we scots all live in Fort William, eat poridge, wear kilts all the time and play the bagpipes![/quote]
those are the best ones to tell about hunting the haggis
[quote]Some people would say that today Scoltands independance is trivial compared with the economic benefits of being linked with the south.[/quote]
You're reading one !
You confuse use of an image with core belief :)
However, the beliefs of Wallace and all the other "heroes" who were written up well beyond their reality underpin the Scottish approach to life. ESPECIALLY humour ...... you sure you're Scottish :) :D ?
im 25% german! and 75% scottish...i agree with the humour...and that people like William Wallace (it is written that there where a few leaders as such, not necesrily less significant either) fought the period oppression of pagan english domination. I can jest over braveheart, lets just make sure they all know we are jesting :) because if they can believe in haggis they can beleive this joke surely
...but of course haggis hunting is real right?
[QUOTE=henk4;781429]just to illustrate the dilemma: It is generally accepted that under the rule of the Soviet Union people were not free. However, I have spoken many people in the new independent, free, states that preferred the old situation, being not free, but having free education, free health care, free kindergartens etc...[/QUOTE]
Hooray for canada! we have a sort of mix between a socialist and capitalist mind set. we ARE taxed a lot though...
To answer the question... I find that depending on social context, pople will have different priorities. Someone in Irak for example will choose safety fot the sake of his family. While I, living where i do, would much rather have freedom.
[QUOTE=ZeTurbo;781709]Someone in Irak for example will choose safety fot the sake of his family.[/QUOTE]
Iraq is the perfect example of the paradox. "Somebody" set out to bring that country "freedom" and what suffered most was "safety"
[QUOTE=henk4;781710]Iraq is the perfect example of the paradox. "Somebody" set out to bring that country "freedom" and what suffered most was "safety"[/QUOTE]
Well said.
I'd rather have freedom. The level of insecurity can vary from pretty safe (NY) to warzone (Newark, NJ). :D
Loophole FTW. :D
You never said the degrees of both. :D