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Bmw 700
The BMW 700 was introduced in 1959 and was the ultimate means to generate enough cash flow for the company to continue the development of the BMW middle class car, which saw the light in 1961 and became the mother of all current Beemers.
The 700 was fitted with the 2 cylinder boxer motorcycle engine and the body was designed by Michelotti. The car was first presented as a Coupe and was available with a 32 or 40 BHP engine (700 Sport, later to become CS). During the IAA in 1959 also a sedan version was introduced, on the same chassis but with a less steep roofline, allowing for more headroom in the back. The car was an instant hit and during the IAA enough orders were taken to allow for two years of production.
The 700 CS was a very popular entrant in touring car racing also and was unbeatable in the up to 700 cc class. The coupes became later on available as cabriolets as well.
The next version of the 700 became the 700 LS, with a 16 centimeter longer wheelbase, but a 32 centimeter increase in length, the additional 16 cm being entirely used for the engine bay. A four cylinder engine was planned there, but the project was abandoned after a few test examples were made. The long wheel base were also available as Coupe and Cabriolet
Production ceased in 1965 after which over 188000 cars of all versions were made. Almost 50% of these were 700LS models.
Shown here are a 700 Coupe, the 700 CS that was used by Jacky Ickx during his very first races, a very rare 700 LS Cabriolet and the original 700 sedan
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and the 700 LS that is owned by the BMW museum and made an appearence at the 2005 Villa d'Este concours, sponsored by BMW.
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Here are some pix of the 700 RS from 1960. I do not have any info on it :(
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[QUOTE=dracu777]Here are some pix of the 700 RS from 1960. I do not have any info on it :([/QUOTE]
This is the 700 RS, which was developed specially for hillclimbing, the 700 engine now fitted before the rear axle. The engine was changed to OHC with the Fuhrmann derived bevel rod for driving the camshafts. The engine output was 70 BHP at 8000 revs, and the car obliterated the competition (Fiat/Abarth) duirng the period 1961-1963. In total 19 were produced.
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Wow...thanx henk. You have any more pix?
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[QUOTE=dracu777]Wow...thanx henk. You have any more pix?[/QUOTE]
not of the RS, I have never seen one.
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but the normal one, yes, a 700 CS at Zolder, Belgium in 2003, with some history on the car (in German) and finally one taken at The Ring ages ago.
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Bmw 700 Rs
[QUOTE=dracu777]Here are some pix of the 700 RS from 1960. I do not have any info on it :([/QUOTE]
Hi there...I own chassis number one of these (onlt two made). it is the white car in the bottom two pics...if you want information or to share more about it please let me know...Elliott Butler [email][email protected][/email] ;)
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Welcome, yes any info would be nice, especially if you say that only two were made. According to our sources about 20 were produced (Book by Ostwald). Any racing history known about your car?
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imo 700 rs is one of the most beatiful bmws of all times
if you've got some info about it how about sharing it here on the forum? :)
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These two cars were supposed to be the first of 19 slated but the neue klasse BMW was introduced in 1961. so the interest in the 700 began waining at BMW...only these two were ever done despite information to the contrary. My car had an illustrious history over 5-6 years. with BMW it was driven mostly by Hand Stuck snr. till he retired then was driven by the BMW team drivers, Eppelin, Von Falkenhausen and others. In 1961 it and Stuck were the national hill-climb champions in Germany, Austria and Italy. The car was the sold to Herr Willi Martini aus Adenau (a racing enthusiast and BMW dealer) and was campained with the number two car by team Martini for several seasons.
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Glad to share all that i know...but there are volumns...ask any questions you have interest in and i'll expound on them as much as possible.
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That is very interesting to hear. What is the current status of the car? Any outings recently or planned and if so where?
The same book by Oswald (Alle BMW Automobile seit 1928) also mentions special coupes built by Martini, based on the 700 series. When he wanted to commercialise these cars it was allegedly forbidden by BMW.
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[QUOTE=BMW 700 RS]Glad to share all that i know...but there are volumns...ask any questions you have interest in and i'll expound on them as much as possible.[/QUOTE]
it's really very interesting info you've shared. my questions:
do you use the car in any way? go with it on some shows or something like that
do you have any more pics of it? :)
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The car is in original condition (as retired 1963) with exception repaint and leather seats done in 1983. I have done some conservation and undid a few things, done to the car over the last owners tenure. when he repainted her he put on some mirrors the car never had and a top fortunately both were only bolt ons and easily removed and no damage was done to the originality of the car. I have replaced an aftermarket tach with an original. Have found a set of original wheels for static display only as they are not strong enough to drive on. After careful consideration of the condition of the vehicle and its worth in original condition as opposed to a ground up restoration i have elected to conserve and preserve, restoration can be done at anytime the cars condition warrant it. the basic platform is very, very sound and will not be altered while in my possesion. the car runs and drives marvelously. I show the car at select venues several times a year. most big shows like monterey etc. have expressed an interest but do not have a class for the car as it is unrestored and post war vintage...their loss i say...
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have tons of pics...she is like one of my children...i also have several extremely rare items for the car. I have the original German title for the car showing it's owner as BMW ag and all the stamps etc. for tagging the vehicle during it's carrier and it's final retirement from BMW ownership in march of 1963. The most important single item i have other than the car however is a video tape copy of the original 8mm film (no sound) of this car being built from research and developement phase trough construction and a good amount of racing footage with Hans Stuck sr. Color film with great detail pics and very famous faces of BMW in those days...this is a real treasure.
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have tons of pics...she is like one of my children...i also have several extremely rare items for the car. I have the original German title for the car showing it's owner as BMW ag and all the stamps etc. for tagging the vehicle during it's carrier and it's final retirement from BMW ownership in march of 1963. The most important single item i have other than the car however is a video tape copy of the original 8mm film (no sound) of this car being built from research and developement phase trough construction and a good amount of racing footage with Hans Stuck sr. Color film with great detail pics and very famous faces of BMW in those days...this is a real treasure.[/QUOTE]
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it's really amazing
care to sare some pics?:)
like i said before it's one of the most beatiful bmws of all times and one of my favourite cars of all times so i'm really looking forward to getting some as it's really hard to get any of it
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yes i will. glad to share just need a bit to figure out how to post them and dig out some of the ones i like..here is one of the published pics...this is in 1961 the year the car was made with Hans Stuck snr. driving...this is also the way the car looks today...thanks for the great comments...
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here is the car as it was in the BMW press release just after it was back from the paint shop. note it had no rear air scoop and there were no mirrors nor numbers or tag.
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the pic with the number 148 on it was when it won the Austrian nation grand prize...this is the point in time i have chosen to conserve to, as the pictorial documentation is wonderful....:p
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dydzi...where are you located...I'm in Athens, Georgia USA...east of Atlanta
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Those are amazing photos and information. It is nice to hear people like you are still out there prefering preservation. Keep those photos coming :)
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[QUOTE=BMW 700 RS]dydzi...where are you located...I'm in Athens, Georgia USA...east of Atlanta[/QUOTE]
51°43'08.51"N 19°28'52.33"E - i couldn't be more precise :rolleyes:
that is lodz, central poland, europe so chances to meet with you and your car are rather small
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pics
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even more pics...i warned you guys
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number 7 car is my factory sport 65hp...number 5 is a LeGrand mark for i have, BMW 700 motor and trans 80hp martini engine weight is 450 pounds...
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You are one lucky man. Now if you will excuse me, I have to go pick up my jaw from the floor :)
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thanks for the kind remarks...very, very nice to have my cars appreciated hope you enjoy...I also have two BME motorcycles...a US version R69s 1968 with seib side car and an R27 1964
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If I would own that car I would give her real number plates (or at least some replicas)... those are looking terrible...
The second car (if there really are only 2) is owned by BMW up to today and was driven at the "Arosa Classic" Hill Climb in Schwitzerland last month (pictures in german magazine "Motor Klassik 11/2005").
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guess you might not know that there were decal plates in the 60's with the plaquette being applied by holes in the body. If you look closely at the picture from 1961 that car has decals. this detail was proven by research and verification from Han Stuck Jr who used to wash the car while at races and drive it back down the hill for his father...he was 10 years old at the time. Also I can guarantee that only two were ever built. verified by BMW Mobile Tradition historian and archivist. post the pics from Klassiker or the magazine you have and if it is silver with a half windshield and roll bar it is BMW's number two car. I have pictures of it in the museum also if you need verification.
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I have to bring my scanner back to life, but yes, it is a silver car.
Don't understand me wrong, I won't say your informations are wrong, I only learned, that 19 BMW 700 RS were made and now have to learn, that there are only 2, what makes seeing one even better ;)
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BMW 700 Coupé taken by me...
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i will be glad to post some pics of BMW's car also...then you can tell if it is the same car...would love to see the motor klassiker i won't get it for about 6 weeks if it comes at all...get you scanner working and i'll ell you about the other ca...sorry my reply was strong i didn't mean to be defensive...thanks for your input...:)
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BMW usually puts the number six on their car at events...it is in a white square background...very similar to a picture taken in 1963 with Alex Von Falkenhausen driving.
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Here it is (not scanned, but my DigiCam is working ;) ) I can translate the text if you want.
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Ja,Ja...das ist Herr Rousch in der BMW Mobile Tradition RS...I have many pictures of me and this car at mobile traditions museum. will try to dig them out. i also have pictures of this car before restoration. it was severely damaged by Herr Willi Martini in the 1970's when he added a fiberglass hoop and a 1970's armaturee and instruments. he tried to reintroduce this car as one he had remade in the 70's but actually only modified the number two car. before BMW purchased it it was in the Hockemhein museum for race cars.:(
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sorry the museum is Hockenheim....:o