what is the most powerful engine ever produced in italy?

My guess would be the veyron, but thats only because it has 4 turbo's, so for me that doesn't really count, i want to know which engine has the most raw horsepower, and with no superchargers helping it out ;)

The Veyron is a German car with a VW engine.
My guess would be the 1.5 litre turbo engine of the Ferrari F1 Turbo, before the restrictor area. These engines had up to 1200-1300 BHP in qualification trim. I am not sure what the maximum output was of the Alfa Indy engine, which was not very successful.

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[QUOTE=dydzi]most powerful engine in the world is in german lotec sirius - 6,0 l, V12 -1200KM[/QUOTE]

The thread is about Italy, so this thing is disqualified!

[QUOTE=ENZOMAN]My guess would be the veyron, but thats only because it has 4 turbo's, so for me that doesn't really count, i want to know which engine has the most raw horsepower, and with no superchargers helping it out ;)[/QUOTE]
Presume you want an engine in a production car ?
What about specials, tuning companies etc etc ? There are likely tuners in Italy making some powerful mods.

Is it just max power ? What about power from engine - eg power/liter ?
For the latter the Ducati Desmo engines in MotoGP are putting out 230+bhp from a one litre normally aspirated engine. A Ferrari Enzo would have to produce 1400bhp from it's 6 litres to match the technology :) ( it barely manages HALF that )

and check out this ....[IMG]http://www.ducati.com/docs_eng/photogalleries2//040204drmgp/images/19_b.jpg[/IMG]
... that is the COMPLETE engine and gearbox the engineer is putting together. Power per external size is also awesome. Right now MotoGP is the pinnacle of [B]4-stroke[/B] engine/transmission development.

I am not sure but I presume an Aprilia 125 or 250 might achieve more BHP per litre?

[QUOTE=henk4]I am not sure but I presume an Aprilia 125 or 250 might achieve more BHP per litre?[/QUOTE]
Yes, but they're 2-stroke cycle and it's not fair to compare - or maybe it is :)

[QUOTE=Matra et Alpine]Yes, but they're 2-stroke cycle and it's not fair to compare - or maybe it is :)[/QUOTE]

Well, the original question was not very specific, so, yes, I think 2 strokes would also qualify.

the 125 with around 50 and 250 with around 100 .. but hey . matricien . you forgot a Ferraro V10 producing over 900 HP with only 3000 cc .. so would be more then 300HP/liter .. :)
btw . i've heard that MotoGp could change the max capacity for the engines to 800 cc :)

[QUOTE=DasModell]the 125 with around 50 and 250 with around 100 .. but hey . matricien . you forgot a Ferraro V10 producing over 900 HP with only 3000 cc .. so would be more then 300HP/liter .. :)[/QUOTE]
Yea, if you include race engines then you get the special qualifying Trubo 1500s getting 1100 bhp !!
[QUOTE]btw . i've heard that MotoGp could change the max capacity for the engines to 800 cc :)[/QUOTE]
Honda seem to be having difficulty keeping the rumours that they've another 50bhp on tap with their engine and it's scaring the organisers to do something to limit the performance :)

well ..:) .. the guy said . no superchargers :) :)
not only Honda .. all the bikes produce huge amounts of power .. (including the Aprilia :) .. my favorite bike :) ) but if they reduce the capacity .. it would have sense for some manufacturers to rebuild 2-strike machines . cause if they keep the current weights for 4-stroke .. the 2-stroke could be very competitive again .. :)

[QUOTE=DasModell]well ..:) .. the guy said . no superchargers :) :)[/QUOTE]
That's why I'd not included thme first time, but if we're going to consider 20strokers then why not turbos. Guess that should take all of them out.
[QUOTE]not only Honda .. all the bikes produce huge amounts of power .. (including the Aprilia :) .. my favorite bike :) ) but if they reduce the capacity .. it would have sense for some manufacturers to rebuild 2-strike machines . cause if they keep the current weights for 4-stroke .. the 2-stroke could be very competitive again .. :)[/QUOTE]
MotoGP can't go back to 2-stroke.
Last year was the transition year when both were allowed :(
Honda are producing WAY more reliable power than the others.
The Duc's are still horrendously expensive to run - same as in SBK.
It will beinteresting as the year progresses if Rossi fails to sparkle as he did when on Honda.

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i like the veyron as well, but quad turbos make it too fast