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Justice is Blind
[url=http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090527.010/daimler-loses--greek-court-rules-in-favor-of-chinese-smart-fortwo-clone]Daimler loses - Greek court rules in favor of Chinese smart fortwo clone - Worldcarfans[/url]
Oh noes......
This is getting ridiculous. :mad:
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what is ridiculous, exactly?
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Not really much of a loss, unless you really really like Smart cars.
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[quote=blingbling;886756]what is ridiculous, exactly?[/quote]
Chinese making cheap rip off of cars (or things in general), then re-branding them as their own.
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seems pretty logical and unridiculous to me
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[quote=blingbling;886767]seems pretty logical and unridiculous to me[/quote]
Somehow, the chinese makes cars that look almost EXACTLY the same as the foreign original versions
Just look at this, they went a little too far here:
[url=http://www.autoblog.com/2009/04/23/rolls-royce-considering-trademark-suit-against-geely-ge/]Rolls-Royce considering trademark suit against Geely GE[/url]
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if this isnt grounds for nuking china and setting off ww3 idk what is. and yes i know that daimler isnt american, but it is our duty to protect the world from such evil
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[quote=blingbling;886767]seems pretty logical and unridiculous to me[/quote]
Ripping off a design and reverse engineering it, albeit in a worse version, seems pretty rediculous to me. If Chevrolet did the same with their own version of a Ferrari F430 and claimed it to be the Corvette ZO6 would you say it'd be logical?
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I just hate the general Idea of it. I kinda get that it's an easy way into the motoring market. Especialy as with the small capital that the avarage chinese dude has, but couldn't they just pay to lend the platform, and then just build a new chassis and stuff some other interior items in it.
I really hate this, and allways have hated the chineses tendancy to copy. What do you recon causes this lousy behavior? Because I really only see the chinese doing it in such large scale.
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[quote=jump15vc;886775]if this isnt grounds for nuking china and setting off ww3 idk what is. and yes i know that daimler isnt american, but it is our duty to protect the world from such evil[/quote]
hahahahahahahahah
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[quote=lightweight;886782]hahahahahahahahah[/quote]
seconded.
BMW already lost in a similar case in which Shangyuan, the brand selling the Noble (the car featured in this article), was trying to convince the Italina Court that their CEO wasn't a copy of the X5.
Now, knowing how bitches the Italians are and how they hate copying their own stuff, when the judge declared there isn't something going wrong since the quality, the price and the customer they are aiming for are completely different between an X5 and a CEO (starting a about 25.000 € iirc), I laughed.
And I became aware corruption is legal.
[img]http://www.rpmgo.com/images/ceo_x5_copy.jpg[/img]
That said, this has going on for ages.
[URL="http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual71966/640x480/Lexus-LS-430-Sedan.jpeg"]Remember this Lexus LS[/URL]? Now tell me it wasn't trying to like an S-Klasse as much as possible.
What I don't like is that in this way we are fomenting two things:
- cheaply and badly designed cars (not saying all chinese cars are, but those who tried to be sold here up to know were pretty scaring)
- we aren't explaining peiope they dno't have to pursue the image of a car but it's [I]quality[/I]. That's to say, in this way we are just adding value to the badge (or to the style in this case) and not to the car itself.
[I]Why did you buy the CEO? Because it looks like an X5, dude.[/I]
Awesome.
I prefer another approach, done by other Chinese makers, that's to say buying dismissed products from other automakers, restyle them and then sell them again at low price but with a decent overall quality. That's the same thing the very original brands are doing, with the Clio Story, or the 206+ and so on.
An example is Chery. The DR Group (European importer of the Saleen S7, fyi)sell Cherys here as Dr cars, with the first and main product being the DR5, or if you prefer a previous gen Toyota Rav4. Coming at 18.000 € full optional, with mainly Fiat's engines and transmissions.
[img]http://www.mrauto.it/wp-content/uploads/dr5.jpg[/img]
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It's really lazy and certainly wrong from an Intellectual Property point of view, but what price do we really place on brand and design?
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I just put a jihad on chinese people that copy european cars. i dare them to copy a 430 scuderia, i double dare them.
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[quote=jump15vc;886825]I just put a jihad on chinese people that copy european cars. i dare them to copy a 430 scuderia, i double dare them.[/quote]
they did something even better, they copied the 330 P3/4:
[img]http://dilatua.libero.it/c/img66/economia/03/3678/2006/4/322frattini.jpg[/img]
That's the Italian Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the time (and even now, thanks Berlusconi).
[URL="http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/2974305d.jpg"]here is a higher res image[/URL]
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[quote=IBrake4Rainbows;886812]It's really lazy and certainly wrong from an Intellectual Property point of view, but what price do we really place on brand and design?[/quote]
A lot apparently.