in your opinion

which is your Favourite zonda mine as people know is the zonda cinque.
please state you fav zonda and the Reason why it is you fav zonda

i am not including one of zondas like the hh

None of the ones you listed.

so you are saying you do not like zondas or you fav zonda is the c12

Please stop with the poles.

Damn Poles! Get out of here Rocke!
Poles on pole!
[IMG]http://www.f1wolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/kubica-pole-position-press.jpg[/IMG]
sorry couldn't help myself...

^ :p

This forum needs an Anti-Troll Patrol!

[quote=aiasib;953893]^ :p

This forum needs an Anti-Troll Patrol![/quote]

Perhaps, it is not the sort of posts that belongs to my favourites, but on the other hand if we had 10 or 15 people on board here, who on basis of hands-on experience with all five types of Zonda could exactly explain why one model is better than another, I would not object to reading that.

[quote=aiasib;953893]This forum needs an Anti-Troll Patrol![/quote]

An anti-troll pole.. we should have a poll to choose it.. the anti-troll pole poll.

Can't you mods just disable his "create poll" option?
BTW, an anti-troll pole poll is an idea of pure genius. We should do that immediately.

Or we could come back to the topic "chocolate" again...^^

zonda F remains on my 'must have' hypercar list..

I don't see what the problem is. The guy just wants some discussion, and if that involves a poll, who cares? Why are you guys freaking out?

My choice would be the Zonda R. Its a track oriented machine that has conquered the Nurburgring and is knife edge precise and has power to boot. Conquer the corners then prevail in the straits. :D

But, I'd rather have a 599XX. They are so much cooler (because its Ferrari, hello?), if a little bit slower. :)

edit: back on topic (the boring part of the thread), I picked the roadster so I can hear the noise better. Tunnels here I come :).

Zonda Cinique. My roommate did a massive drift in one in Need For Speed Hot Pursuit which means that it can so do that in real life.

That said, it's a beast of a car and I'd be glad to have any Zonda so as long as it has the hardtop.

I always like the Zonda F of all the early Pagani models. Mostly because I thought that it was the GT2 of Zonda's before they started making one limited edition after another. If I was buying one I would have ticked the Clubsport option and wanted no paint colour so I could enjoy looking at the weave of the carbon fibre.

I picked the Roadster. My feeling that unless you need the structural rigidity of a couple for racing and/or intense track work, an open car is just more fun.

[quote=NicFromLA;953942]I picked the Roadster. My feeling that unless you need the structural rigidity of a couple for racing and/or intense track work, an open car is just more fun.[/quote]

amen.:cool:

Dear All
I have deleted/edited a number of posts from this thread that came under the chapter: less relevant posts. Hope we can stay on topic.
Thanks.
Pieter

I'd choose the Zonda R. It may only be a track toy, but it's nevertheless an amazing piece of engineering... and compared to the (very similar) Ferrari FXX, it isn't even that bad looking.
It's sad that Pagani won't use the 7.3 AMG engine anymore intheir future models. THis should be the end for it as i know no other manufacturer that buys them.

Just curious, does anyone know what the price range is for these cars?

Which one's the cheapest, which one's the most expensive?

I'm sure they're all expensive though.

According to various unconfirmed internet sources:

2009 Pagani Zonda Cinque: $1,565,000
2009 Pagani Zonda R: $1,996,000
2002 Pagani Zonda C12 S: $325,000
Zonda F Coupe: €478,000
Zonda F Coupe ClubSport: €500,000
Zonda Roadster F Clubsport: €560,000
Zonda Roadster F: €538,000
2010 Pagani Zonda C9: $1,265,000

note that some are in € and some in $, also note that inflation (however minor) has not been factored in to these figures, since some are from press releases back from '03

I think I would have to look at a couple of Zonda brochures to decide. Well that and I don't think the car looks good and I don't think it's for sale in the US.

[quote=aiasib;953951]According to various unconfirmed internet sources:

2009 Pagani Zonda Cinque: $1,565,000
2009 Pagani Zonda R: $1,996,000
2002 Pagani Zonda C12 S: $325,000
Zonda F Coupe: €478,000
Zonda F Coupe ClubSport: €500,000
Zonda Roadster F Clubsport: €560,000
Zonda Roadster F: €538,000
2010 Pagani Zonda C9: $1,265,000

note that some are in € and some in $, also note that inflation (however minor) has not been factored in to these figures, since some are from press releases back from '03[/quote]

:eek: I always knew they were really expensive, but I had no idea so many were knocking on the door of the $1M mark. Factoring in conversion rates into Canadian $, thats 6 out of 8 models that either make it close to or surpass $1M with one bordering $2M!? I must have been living in a cave, because I thought as far as more modern cars go, that sort of territory was only ruled by McLaren F1s, Enzos and Bugattis:confused:. Well, good luck brochureman. You'll have to start creating polls/or dancing on them for a living to afford one of these :D.

Yeah, Koenigsegg is in that price range too; expect nothing less from these boutique carmakers :p

[quote=NSXType-R;953950]Just curious, does anyone know what the price range is for these cars?

Which one's the cheapest, which one's the most expensive?

I'm sure they're all expensive though.[/quote]

The only thing I know about Paganis is that nobody pays the base prices for these... the demand is (irritatingly and understandably at the same time) much higher than the output of the factory. And of course, there is no real price limit for Paganis ;)

[quote=Commodore GS/E;953949]I'd choose the Zonda R. It may only be a track toy, but it's nevertheless an amazing piece of engineering... and compared to the (very similar) Ferrari FXX, it isn't even that bad looking.
It's sad that Pagani won't use the 7.3 AMG engine anymore intheir future models. THis should be the end for it as i know no other manufacturer that buys them.[/quote]

the 7.3 V12 AMG was made exclusively for Pagani. May it rev in peace.

[quote=Magnum9987;953973]the 7.3 V12 AMG was made exclusively for Pagani. May it rev in peace.[/quote]

What about this?

[IMG]http://membres.lycos.fr/voituresrares/photos/sl73%20amg.jpg[/IMG]

[quote=DesmoRob;953974]What about this?

[IMG]http://membres.lycos.fr/voituresrares/photos/sl73%20amg.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

I meant today. Couldn't you tell that was a 90s model?

When you said "was made exclusively for Pagani," I figured you meant that Mercedes designed, developed, and produced the engine ONLY for Pagani.

And yea, I totally thought the R129 was current :rolleyes:.

I like the SL73 a lot - its absolutely ridiculous.

Any 90s GT with a 7L+ V12 is good in my books.

May I add my little knowledge on this company...

Prices.
The Zonda F price wasn't as high as it was at the end of its life cycle, but it was improved from about 500.000 € to 750.000 € when they noticed cars were selling on the second hand market for more than what they were payed for when new.
Consider that was 2005, and that a brand new Ferrari Enzo was officially priced at 660.000 € over here.
The original Zonda C12 costed about 200.000 €, but it was 11 years ago. Back in those days, a Diablo was priced at about 150.000 € at worst.
A Zonda Cinque costed 1.150.000 €, the Cinque Roadster costs 1.350.000 € as the Tricolore.
A Zonda R has a price of about 1.750.000 €

All prices including 20% VAT, so it may varies over your place.

Only one Zonda F was built without the Clubsport option, which also was the original silver Zonda F from 2005. It was then updated.

The Zonda is using the M120 engine from Daimler, in a bespoke configuration. So it's still the same engine as the one used on many Mercedes-benz cars, just tailored upon Pagani's requests.
That was less true with the last versions of that engine, even if the basis is still the M120 design.
Will be sort of the same with the new C9.
The M120 is being discontinued by Mercedes, Pagani had no option but to change engine. Plus it's an Euro3 engine which is a bit of a problem as new cars can be registered in Europe only if they are Euro4 I think since 2006 or 2008.

The Tricolore is exactly like a Cinque expect for the LED lights at the front, and the wing on the engine cover. At least the HH has a manual gearbox.

[quote=Kitdy;953980]I like the SL73 a lot - its absolutely ridiculous.

Any 90s GT with a 7L+ V12 is good in my books.[/quote]

And it's nearly the only SL model that won't be abused by pseudo street racers... much too expensive. Bút the process has already begun with the "lesser" SL models... which is cruel :(.

The R is my favourite car in the world, because it is the ultimate expression of a supercar. It is completely pointless, as it's not road-legal, doesn't meet race regulations and is too loud for track days. Like a perfect supercar, it exists only to make lots of noise and propel the useless deadweight in the cockpit to point B in a very short period of time.

[quote=zondaventa725;964449]it exists only to make lots of noise and [B]propel the useless deadweight in the cockpit to point B[/B] in a very short period of time.[/quote]
EPIC win :)

For the sake of V12...
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZjxNQcvA2g"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZjxNQcvA2g[/ame]

None of those on the poll are my favourite. My favourite is the original C12. Don't get me wrong, all Zondas are amazing, but I prefer the noise of the original and the original nose cone, which was flat instead of pointy like every Zonda since.

Id pick the Zonda F only because the Zonda R has that hidious roof scoop...