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Ferrer 04-27-2013 02:30 PM

Maserati Ghibli 2013-
 
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Can't decide between absolute brilliantness and blatant pillage of an historic name for volume and profits #1

Ferrer 04-27-2013 02:31 PM

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jcp123 04-27-2013 02:56 PM

What's the difference between this and the QP?

Ferrer 04-27-2013 03:05 PM

It's smaller, lighter, more focused, tauter, more agressive.

It's also cheaper.

jcp123 04-27-2013 03:13 PM

Hm. Interesting. May end up paying off if it covers more customers than the QP alone does.

Ferrer 04-27-2013 03:16 PM

It will. As a result the QP has gone bigger and softer as well.

Oh, by the way, it's also the first Maserati with a diesel engine.

jcp123 04-28-2013 05:03 PM

I can't imagine a soft QP...

Ferrer 04-28-2013 11:05 PM

[quote=jcp123;995360]I can't imagine a soft QP...[/quote]
Well. It's a Chrysler with a downsized engine and an automatic.

It's the end of the world as we know it.

pimento 04-29-2013 12:41 AM

[quote=Ferrer;995376]Well. It's a Chrysler with a downsized engine and an automatic.

It's the end of the world as we know it.[/quote]

'Cept they're still Ferrari made/designed engines and the 8-speed auto from ZF, so not all doom/gloom. Also reports are in that it rides too harshly, so not too soft then. :p

Ferrer 04-29-2013 09:13 AM

[quote=pimento;995381]'Cept they're still Ferrari made/designed engines and the 8-speed auto from ZF, so not all doom/gloom. Also reports are in that it rides too harshly, so not too soft then. :p[/quote]
The greatest irony is that because of rednecks (Dodge Challenger) this car has been designed with a manual gearbox in mind...

Europeans building automatics and Americans building manuals? The world is definitely upside down...

pimento 04-29-2013 06:49 PM

[quote=Ferrer;995390]The greatest irony is that because of rednecks (Dodge Challenger) this car has been designed with a manual gearbox in mind...

Europeans building automatics and Americans building manuals? The world is definitely upside down...[/quote]

Remember that the US is the only place where you can get the last two versions of the M5 with a full manual 'box...

jcp123 04-29-2013 08:32 PM

It's just expensive to run two trims of what is otherwise essentially the same car. It's risky to split it off, but I think it could pay off for them. The QP/Ghibli class is a small enough market that it may not end up putting an undue burden on them.

Ferrer 04-29-2013 11:02 PM

[quote=jcp123;995410]It's just expensive to run two trims of what is otherwise essentially the same car. It's risky to split it off, but I think it could pay off for them. The QP/Ghibli class is a small enough market that it may not end up putting an undue burden on them.[/quote]
They are not in the same market.

Think 7er (QP) v 5er (Ghibli).

Kitdy 04-30-2013 09:38 PM

The Ghibli is a Challenger too, isn't it? That means these are all very old E Classes...

Revo 05-01-2013 01:12 AM

[quote=Kitdy;995441]The Ghibli is a Challenger too, isn't it? That means these are all very old E Classes...[/quote]
That old E-class was sourced from the even older S-class. The origins of the S-class itself, of course, can be traced back to an oxcart.

So this means.....what?


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