Welcome everyone to the new Toyota Soarer #1
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Welcome everyone to the new Toyota Soarer #1
It's got the world first production 10 speed automatic gearbox #2
The engine is a 5 litre V8, the same as in the F models, in this case with 467bhp #3
The LC500 does 0 to 60 in 4,5 seconds #4
Unlike the previous Soarer, this new model is a 2 door coupé #5
The LC débuts the new GA-L platform which will underpin most future Lexuses. Apparently it is more rigid than the LFA chassis #6
The blue car is the LC500h, the hybrid version which will be officially unveiled in the upcoming Geneva Motorshow #7
I like where Lexus is heading, at least until 2020 when they supposedly switch over to hydrogen I believe, based off the speech Mr. Toyoda made.
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEsGunZuf_s"]Replay: All-New Lexus LC 500 Revealed Live! - YouTube[/ame]
I'm not on board. I was surprised to see the press so gaga over this car. It still looks very weird to me; the overall shape is quite pleasing but the details (specifically, huge-ass ugly grille, ridiculously over-complex and busy headlights) are all wrong. This will be quite heavy (it [I]looks[/I] visually heavy), and seems very boulevard cruiser-esque. Which isn't a bad thing.
I'm trying to make a list of competitors for this in my mind and having a bit of a time.
[quote=Kitdy;1014062]I'm not on board. I was surprised to see the press so gaga over this car. It still looks very weird to me; the overall shape is quite pleasing but the details (specifically, huge-ass ugly grille, ridiculously over-complex and busy headlights) are all wrong. This will be quite heavy (it [I]looks[/I] visually heavy), and seems very boulevard cruiser-esque. Which isn't a bad thing.
I'm trying to make a list of competitors for this in my mind and having a bit of a time.[/quote]
I think the styling is slightly off, but it is certainly the most interesting thing any Japanese carmaker makes right now (I'm looking especially at you Honda).
I don't think this is a hard core sports car, but I think this would go up nicely against a Jaguar F-Type, Porsche 911, Chevy Corvette, Audi R8, and the Mercedes AMG GT. I think it's to start right under $100,000. Maybe the Nissan GT-R too?
I don't think this is a rival for the F-Types and 911s, I see it more softer-edged, more of a cruiser than an out-and-out sportscar. I think its main rivals will be the BMW 6 Series and the Mercedes-Benz SL (and possibly the upper ranges of the E-Class Coupé once it's out).
I like it because it looks special. It looks like a concept car straight out of the floor of a motorshow. Still, I don't know if I'd buy one. The GS-F is 550i performance for M5 money and I guess this will be even more expensive.
I'm also not sure about the ten speed gearbox. The 8 speed ZF gearboxes I have driven can be a bit fussy when cruising and during gradual speed changes and I guess that having more gears will only make it worse.
[quote=Ferrer;1013957]The blue car is the LC500h, the hybrid version which will be officially unveiled in the upcoming Geneva Motorshow #7[/quote]
[URL="http://jalopnik.com/the-new-lexus-500h-is-a-car-from-the-future-with-a-tran-1759874210"]It has a 4-speed auto[/URL], but for reasons that make sense.
Interesting article indeed.
But actually did you know that Toyota's hybrids do not have a CVT, but a sort of planetary gearsets that [I]act like a CVT[/I]?
Since I'm no engineer I can't explain it, but I'm sure some of the experts can come here an explain it (cough*Miles*cough).
By the way, it's all very well, but the future green fun motoring was already invented by Honda before. I don't understand why everyone hated the CR-Z...
Let me preface this by saying I'm not a fan of the Lexus styling. Brilliant engineering, but holy hell, even something as simple as the plethora of button designs in any of their interiors makes my OCD go completely bonkers.
[quote=Kitdy;1014062]I'm not on board. I was surprised to see the press so gaga over this car. It still looks very weird to me; the overall shape is quite pleasing but the details (specifically, huge-ass ugly grille, ridiculously over-complex and busy headlights) are all wrong. This will be quite heavy (it [I]looks[/I] visually heavy), and seems very boulevard cruiser-esque. Which isn't a bad thing.
I'm trying to make a list of competitors for this in my mind and having a bit of a time.[/quote]
This, so much this.
[quote=Ferrer;1014067]
I like it because it looks special. It looks like a concept car straight out of the floor of a motorshow. Still, I don't know if I'd buy one. The GS-F is 550i performance for M5 money and I guess this will be even more expensive.
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The GS-F I actually took a closer look at just last weekend. It was comfortable and nice to sit in but... no, just no.
I don't like them partly because of their wildly incoherent design, and partly because they scream "look at me! I'm special" so hard.
This is coming from someone with a couple of supercharged V8s, with body kits, loud exhausts, and shit.
[quote=Rasmus;1014104]The GS-F I actually took a closer look at just last weekend. It was comfortable and nice to sit in but... no, just no.[/quote]
I hate the F's diagonally stacked exhausts.
I like the GS-F in concept, but not in price. I am also not a fan of current styling, in general.
A while a go I drove an IS300h. It was a nice car but hardly a sports saloon.
The interiors of their F cars are far gaudier (typically in the bizarre colours they have in press photos) compared to the Germans. Every review I read seems to indicate that they are still not up to par with the AMGs, Ms, and RSs of the world. They're certianly uglier, and down on power.
The one thing that is kinda nice is they keep naturally aspirated engines, which the press then shit-talks after bemoaning the constant onslaught of turbos.
So... Yeah. Cake and eat it too.
I'll take the C63 please and thanks. "F" needs work.
I think that comparing the GS-F to the AMG's, M's and RS's is wrong.
As I see it, it would be a perfect replacement for our old XF 4.2. Minus for the excessive styling. And the price tag which really rivals those cars it shouldn't be compared to.
[quote=Ferrer;1014113]I think that comparing the GS-F to the AMG's, M's and RS's is wrong.
As I see it, it would be a perfect replacement for our old XF 4.2. Minus for the excessive styling. And the price tag which really rivals those cars it shouldn't be compared to.[/quote]
That is what they want to be compared to, for better or worse.
I was looking again at the LC500h pictures (apparently in EDM spec) and a question arose: Where is the front number plate supposed to go?
Off to the left side in Great Britain, so you can crumple and sweep the shins of pedestrians who live on the edge, or shall I say walk on the edge.
Or the right side if you're in LHD countries, which ever is more convenient to damage shins.
I think it goes right across the middle, the whole grill can't possibly be used for air, there should be a crash member right at the tip of that grill.
Because it was mentioned in the Supra thread it needed some more photos :D
A black one
[quote=Duell;1018207]Because it was mentioned in the Supra thread it needed some more photos :D[/quote]
Thanks for the photos!
The big naturally aspirated V8 is a real breath of fresh air and I can even look past the weird grill. Once you get past the grill, the rest of the car actually looks fabulous, unlike its cheaper brethren. A worthy successor to the Lexus SC300 and Toyota Soarer.
And also as a convertible.
It's even more pretty
Lexus LC #11
Lexus LC #12
And it looks quite fetching in this color of green. Officially called Nori Green, it's a special edition color.
LC #13
I think BMW would stand to learn a bit from Lexus, this is much more elegant than the 8 Series coupe they put out, which looks like a big Mustang from certain angles. Better enjoy this car while it's in production, that naturally aspirated V8 isn't going to stick around for much longer.
Speaking of which, I found these binaural videos.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqJ5rXn_Rds[/url]
Excellent material for people who can't buy one of these cars yet.