Yea, true. But I, like everyone else dont see the big deal. Do you know what "informantion" exactly they were sharing? Because you can find car sales figures everywhere...Originally Posted by Coventrysucks
Yea, true. But I, like everyone else dont see the big deal. Do you know what "informantion" exactly they were sharing? Because you can find car sales figures everywhere...Originally Posted by Coventrysucks
I own this encycpedia from the 80s that says it is allowed to share information between companys
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Yeah, you should post that list, and then put the URL to that list in your sig.Originally Posted by QuattroMan
i thought triumph still made bikes just not carsOriginally Posted by Matra et Alpine
They are apparently still debating and trying to find out if the sharing of this info may affect competition, so in the mean time why not play it safe? It also makes the campanies in question look innocent even if they were to know they were breaking the law, that way if they were breaking the law, there is a greater chance of just getting a warning instead of getting fined that 10% of their earnings. That is a pretty serious thing and alot of money. And if they were sharing this data what other data might they have been sharing?"The crucial issue is whether or not the parties could use the information they receive in a way that affects competition between themselves."
that's a different TriumphOriginally Posted by The_Canuck
"A woman without curves is like a road without bends, you might get to your destination quicker but the ride is boring as hell'
they are still in production, only they are named Audi now. (Check the history of the DKW F102)Originally Posted by dydzi
another explanation of the acronym DKW was Deutsche Kinder Wagen (German Baby buggy), because they were rather small.
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Wasn't this acknowledged theft from design genuis Hans Ledwinka, not DKWyes but matra says that porsche stole air-cooled beetle from dkw, read more carefully
My understadning of it was that it gets hazy.Originally Posted by nota
Ledwinka's early work at Tatra develoep a front engined air-cooled boxer in the 20s.
Then in the 30s they started looking at rear engine using the latest aero research. BUT the cars they produced were large luxury and were V8s.
DKW had taken the similar research and had paid Porsche to do some design work with them on smaller, lighter car.
Who influenced who in amongst all that ? Ledwinka at Tatra DID take adifferent rounte and went for large, comfort bigger engines. The Beetle went small, cheap and small boxer.
"A woman without curves is like a road without bends, you might get to your destination quicker but the ride is boring as hell'
To be honest I'm less familiar re DKW/KDF connection, also with Skoda 932. Nevertheless the below makes for interesting reading ..Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine
"In the late 1930s it became clear that VW had used several patents of the Tatra factory. It's likely Porsche used these patents because of the enourmous presure from Hitler to develop the KdF-Wagen in a short time and on a tight budget. Just before the outbrake of WWII Tatra had ten legal claims against VW for infringement of patents. Although Porsche was about to make a settlement with Tatra, Hitler stopped him and told Porsche he would "solve this problem". Shortly after he invaded Czechoslovakia and gained control over the Tatra factory.
After the war the KdF-Wagen went on to international stardom as the VW Beetle selling millions and millions of cars, while Tatra found itself stranded behind the iron curtain under a new Communist government who told Tatra what they could and couldn't produce and export. The lawsuit case of the patents was re-opened after the war and dragged on for years, ending in 1961 when VW eventually made a settlement paying Tatra a mere DM 3,000,000 .-. Ledwinka never received any money himself and died in relative obscurity in 1967. Porsche later admitted that during the construction of the KdF-Wagen in the 1930s he "occasionally looked over the shoulder of Ledwinka".
http://www.tatra.demon.nl/cars_history_T97.htm
Don't those above pics of floorpan and even dashboard bear an uncanny resemblance to 'Hitler's revenge'?
Likewise Ledwinka's V570: http://www.tatra.demon.nl/cars_history_aerodynamic.htm
i dont realy understand wats really illegal to share data.
Collusion can be done in a way that two or more competitors can change the market in unfare ways to the consumer. This can be done in different ways depending on the data shared.Originally Posted by Cadillac Imaj
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