Henk! Don't use the D-word, it scares the americans!Originally Posted by henk4
Henk! Don't use the D-word, it scares the americans!Originally Posted by henk4
one more reason to keep on using itOriginally Posted by VtecMini
"I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting, but it does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously." Douglas Adams
I heard it in my graduate level combustion engineering class. When you look at BTU's required to grow/dig up and process the fuel, ethanol isn't nearly as good as gasoline. Growing the corn/soy etc isn't the issue, it's farming it. You have to figure in the fuel consumed by the tractors and combines. Transportation costs are not that easy either. IIRC ethanol can't be piped all over the country like oil can. I think the issue is it absorbs water but I don't remember. In the US the midwestern states are happy about ethanol since it would increase the demand for farm products. States like California find it very troublesome because they have to figure out how to get large quantities of ethanol. As far as I know the US west cost gets it's oil from Pacific Ocean tankers. They don't bring it over land.Originally Posted by superart
If I remember, I will try to find my old notes comparing the cost of "drilling and refining" various fuels. Ethanol wasn't very good compared to Methanol (produced from oil) and gasoline.
D-word?? Democrats!!!!??? HHHAAAA!!!!! Wait a minute...I'm a DemocratOriginally Posted by VtecMini
"NEVER ALLOW SOMEONE TO BE YOUR PRIORITY, WHILE ALLOWING YOURSELF TO BE THEIR OPTION"
Didn`t the Top Gear guys run a Volvo V70 (850?) TDI on peanutoil or some kind of soyaoil?? Think it was on Top Gear... some years ago..
It smelled like a fast food kitchen where ever you drove I can remember
Culver, if you find those notes, would you mind scanning some in. I'd be very interested in takeing a look at it.
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btw, where do/did you go to school?
I went back and looked at my old class notes (hand written). Happily this professor was very organized and his syllabus makes for a great index to the notes. Unfortunately my notes stop on 4/17 and the day we discussed future fuels was 4/22.
Looking back through the notes I realized just how much of this stuff I have forgotten (it was 10 years ago). This wasn’t an into type class. We spent a lot of time looking at mathematical equations discussing mostly turbine and diesel engine combustion and emissions. The class was worthwhile in two regards. First, it got me a summer job doing combustion analysis with Rolls Royce – Alison. Second, it convinced me that I did not want to be a combustion engineer for the rest of my life.
I did my undergrad at Vanderbilt and later did a masters at Stanford.
hehe, too bad. Did something happen a few days after the 17th to make you forget about takeing notes on the 22nd ?
Sure, it wasn't going to be on the final
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