The one you showed was the Bulldog concept.Originally Posted by immoral giant
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The one you showed was the Bulldog concept.
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Well they are both awful, but i would still take one over a porsche any day.
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The Bugatti Veyron.
Reason?
Anyone can strap a nuclear powered engine into a 6000lb toad of a body and call it a day.
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Well seems to be that they can't even. Last time i heard they were having problems with overheating. So not everyone can do it.
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I will give you this much-Ford Focus (US MODEL)
(1999-)
1999-2004 models only
When the Focus came to the US in 1999 as a 2000 model, (The European Focus came a year earlier) it was served to replace the strong selling (and may I say reliable) Escort. in 2000 it walked away with Automobile Magazine's Automobile of the Year award, with a host of other awards, while the car was very well engineered, it had a host of reliability problems (the UK model didn't suffer from them suppositively) with 11 recalls in it's first 2 years, tieing a record which was set by the Chevy Citation in 1981, it also had a known problem with the Zetec models spontainisly combusting due to a faulty fuel line, and a host of brake problems and many complaints of poor build quality (like wheels falling off build quality) from owners, the Focus deserves a sopt on the list, But Ford suppositively worked many of the kinks out of it when they redesigned it for 2005 though.
Ford keeps the best Focus models in Europe.
However....
SHUT THE **** UP. Nobody wants to hear about your Focus whining. You're only evidence about Focus' are propoganda hate sites.
Somewhat correct, but once again propoganda laden. While some Dodge cars had transmission problems, you seen to expemplify it with 'like a fat guy through cake.' I think you need to show us some specs-how many cars built, how many had this serious tranny problem?1995-2000 whole Dodge line.
again, these cars were all nice and comfy, but reliability comes into play. back when Dodge was doing the whole "The NEw Dodge" thing (getting off their whole K car gigi that got them such success in the 80s) they tried to do the exact opposite of the K cars, and they did, (the new cars were feature laden and unreliable while the K cars were known for reliability) Chrysler put luxary before reliability and it showed. These cars were known to have crappy drivetrain reliability and they ate through transmissions like a fat guy through cake.
I agree with you completely on its value, but why, and dear God, why...Why would you rate a car thats parts fall off in demos and gets blown off bridges WORSE than a car that has proven its reliablity (Focus)?YUGO! (1986-1991)
the Yugo has to be the worst built car ever made. people complained of parts falling off during test drives, somebody said one was once blown off the macanac bridge, and much more. the Yugo has to be the biggest joke in the history of the auto industry and is a disgrace to all cars traveling the roads today, they are cheap rusted a lot, and if the car still worked it worked very cheaply. I bet I can take a yugo apart with my bare hands without breaking a nail. Malcolm Bricklin, the man who was origionally importing yugos, said he could bring them back to the Us if he can get ends to meet. please, no.
Oh, and by the way, you can't blow somehting off the Macinac bridge, You live in Michigan, I'm sure you've been across it. There are these things called guardrails.
It wasn't so much overpriced , as you've proved (people buy Focus for more than Hondas, and according to you they all go to hell), so people would buy these. It was also the fact that they were ugly. Overpriced+ugly=poor sales.Edsel
(1958-1960)
The Edsel was all nice engineered and reliable, but it was too overpriced. Ford wanted to create a car that had all consumers wanted but didn't ask what they were willing to pay for it, so when potental consumers saw the sticker price, they were scared out of the dealorship, because back then, if consumers had that kind of money, they would of bought a cadillac.
What about the reliability issues there?pontiac Fiero
(1984-1988)
really, the Fiero is one of my favorite cars, but the engine fires caused the car to come up on the list. really, the car was designed to be a commuter car, but consumers thought it was a true sports car , so they pushed it to it's limits, and it caught fire in the process because the engine wasn't designed for high endurance use. but really, I like the Fiero a lot and I don't mean to knock it, I wouldn't mind it for my first car.
Pintos were great cars outside of the gas issue. But I suppose something that big brings it down a lot.Ford Pinto
(1972-1981)
The Ford Pinto was ford's attempt to get into the small car market, and it had a major issue-the fuel tank would explode if the car was rear ended, surprisingly though, only a few owners complained.......
I'm very confused. You say 81-00 and 81-85, if you're talking about the 81-00, I would encourage you to shut up. Remember the RS500, the 1994 Monte Carlo Rally Winner......Ford Escort (1981-2003)
1981-1985 models only
reliabilioty again, Fiord spent lots of time developing the engine, but it just couldn't be made to be reliable. by 1985 or so though, they were finally able to solidify the Escort's reliability.
But I think you mean just the 81-85. For that you are forgiven.
Here's my addition to the cake-
Toyota Prius
Ugly car combined with worthless technology.
Toyota claims hybrids are the way of the future, and they might be, if they were diesel. 2005 is expected to be the peak year of gasoline production, from here on it's all downhill, and we'll be out of gas before you know it. Biodiesel, a fuel that already runs much of Germany, is the undoubted alternative once gasoline is dead and before the much touted hydrogen fuel is developed. A fuel grade vegetable oil that is MUCH cleaner and more efficent than any hybrid on the market yet. Best yet, every single car in the US could be run by a biodiesel production facility taking up little space of an unused desert in Arizona. So why is Toyota wasting time trying to keep up with the present instead of breaking ground for the future, as they oh so many times claim they are doing with hybrids? Why don't they start a biodiesel facility? I wish Toyota would stop wasting our time.
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Which is partly why I put it up as the worst.
The development of this car has been a joke, the EB110 Supersport was the pinacle for that name.
And as for the ease of making a nuclear powered 2 ton beast, look at how quickly the SL65 was cranked out.
Awesome power, great looks but fundamentally flawed by a chassis that cannot handle the engine according to EVO mag.
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Thank god some one posted that dam Bugatti its stupid. The car has no looks to much boost, and no wonder that engine gets to hott with those turbos. We almost purchased a SL55 that car was beautiful in silver.
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EXCELLENT POINT.
Four thumbs up.
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Wait, you're dissing a beautifully engineered, high quality car just because it has a tricky console? What the hell is wrong with you? Besides, you're using near exact same wording as the 2005 Consumer Report car issue.....I got a few more.
BMW 7 series
(1981-)
(2002-) models only
This bimmer was luxerious, nice, and sporty, but all of it's luxary features and craftsmenship was shot to the ground by one thing, the iDrive. The iDrive was made to streamline the interior, but really it was just a big headache, just to change the radio station you needed to pop open the manuel, and Audi also offers a iDrive type unit, but even though it is not as compliacted as the iDrive, it is still nothing but a headache. for the money for a 7 series you can get a Mercedes Benz s or E class which allows you to change stations with a button with a number on it and adjust the AC with a knob, amen.
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I agree with nearly all those cars... BUT the RX8 wasn't designed as an RX7 successor.
And the GTO is cool.
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The GTO is the US's only way of getting the late Holden Monaro.
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also, it tore it's oiwn tranny to bits when it was unveiled, and they needed to add a spoiler so it lowered it's top speed, and also overheating, man, after one lap around a coruse and it will be smoking and parts will be popping out and flying into the air.
I have found a new love in the form of a tristar.
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This reminds me of another supercar wannabe ...
If you should see a man walking down a crowded street talking aloud to himself, don't run in the opposite direction, but run towards him, because he's a poet. You have nothing to fear from the poet - but the truth.
(Ted Joans)
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EXCEPT no matter how much anyone asks to have one, they've not let one out of the factory. They arent' THAT desperate for publicity (yet!)
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I would dispute that, part of the reason the development has taken so damn long is because although 16 prototypes had been built by about 2003 (i think), the marketing department apparantly kept swiping them from the development team.
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