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    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine
    I see what you're saying Fabio.

    can I perhaps rephrase it ?

    "A supercar is made in a Ferrari factory.
    Any car made anywhere else or by anyone else IS NOT a supercar because it's not built liek or by Ferrari."

    Well that's how it read to me

    PS: Fiat own Ferrari, Fiat make crap cars and lots of them so the Ferrari marque can't be a supercar. Well that's the logic proposed anyway
    Those are some logical and wise words there.

    And fabio, how can McLaren not be considered a supercar marque. All the road cars they have produced have been bloody supercars.

    PS: You like Ferrari a bit too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS6
    Those are some logical and wise words there.

    And fabio, how can McLaren not be considered a supercar marque. All the road cars they have produced have been bloody supercars.

    PS: You like Ferrari a bit too much.
    Alright ignore the fact that I like Ferrari for just one second, please Every single Mclaren yes sure has been a supercar sure but how many have there been, next to nothin, and the same goes for Pagani they made a supercar and just because it is fast people for reason think it is better than a Lamborghini or Ferrari or Aston Martin who all have great history behind there names, to me the 3 best Supercar makers are 1. Ferrari 2. Lamborghini 3. Aston Martin because they have history they are built with pride and passion and earn the right to be called supercars, it is hard to explain exactly what I mean but I hope that you can somehow understand what I mean.

    PS: Fiat own Ferrari, Fiat make crap cars and lots of them so the Ferrari marque can't be a supercar. Well that's the logic proposed anyway
    No mate because then neither would Aston Martin be a supercar because it is owned by Ford, come one mate you bloody 46 wake up and think about what you are saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabio Ferrari
    No mate because then neither would Aston Martin be a supercar because it is owned by Ford, come one mate you bloody 46 wake up and think about what you are saying.
    I was and you clearly weren't thinking about what you were saying earlier.

    Please re-read my comments and think then why MG or Ford can't make a supercar then - it was just 4 posts earlier you were arguing that point.
    You can't have it both ways.
    Oh, wait, you're a Ferrari fan ( and I presume F1 ) so you do think you can have it both ways
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine
    I was and you clearly weren't thinking about what you were saying earlier.

    Please re-read my comments and think then why MG or Ford can't make a supercar then - it was just 4 posts earlier you were arguing that point.
    You can't have it both ways.
    Oh, wait, you're a Ferrari fan ( and I presume F1 ) so you do think you can have it both ways
    Alright first off Fiat and Ford are not supercar makers eventhough they own Companies who do make supercars. So now listen to me Fiat and Ford are not supercar makers but Ferrari and Aston Martin are. MG is not either. I do know exactly what you mean when you said "Oh, wait, you're a Ferrari fan ( and I presume F1 ) so you do think you can have it both ways" but I am sure it is a shot at me being a Ferrari fan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabio Ferrari
    I do know exactly what you mean when you said "Oh, wait, you're a Ferrari fan ( and I presume F1 ) so you do think you can have it both ways" but I am sure it is a shot at me being a Ferrari fan
    No it's at you being a fanboy and blind to anything else.
    Read your position on who is and isn't allowed to be a supercar company and remember Ferrari is just a badge on a car made in a fcatory owned by a company called FIAT.
    I know you won't see it, that's the definition of 'fanboy'.
    hey, I'm close to 'fanboy' on Matra's and Alpine's but even I don't believe they're the greatest ever ( despite having succeeded in mroe events than Ferrari - it's easy to be a king of one )
    So we'll agree to disagree, you think Fiat make a small number of supercars with a special badge amongst the millions of FIATs and I think MG make a supercar amongst a few hundred thousand of MGs.
    Let's leave it at that as any more won't change the POV.
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    England; the maclaran F1 is still the best supercar out, the XJ220 was the best before that and the TVR speed 12 is just mentally brilliant!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabio Ferrari
    Alright ignore the fact that I like Ferrari for just one second, please Every single Mclaren yes sure has been a supercar sure but how many have there been, next to nothin, and the same goes for Pagani they made a supercar and just because it is fast people for reason think it is better than a Lamborghini or Ferrari or Aston Martin who all have great history behind there names, to me the 3 best Supercar makers are 1. Ferrari 2. Lamborghini 3. Aston Martin because they have history they are built with pride and passion and earn the right to be called supercars, it is hard to explain exactly what I mean but I hope that you can somehow understand what I mean.
    I don't believe your opinion on the Pagani Zonda to be correct. Have you actually driven the Zonda. If you pay attention to car reviews you will see that everyone who has 'actually' driven the Zonda sees it as better than any Ferrari or Lamborghini equivalent. Being a person who has sat in a Zonda and being up very close, I can certainly say that the car is built with more passion than any Ferrari or Lamborghini of recent times.

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    will guys I have been reading and reading what car is a super car you guys are all wrong...... this car is my choysssssss.....
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    Get back to topic!!!
    It's not the question what company or wht country makes the best supercars overall...

    The question is: Which country makes or has made the best supercar?

    Just look for the best supercar ever made. Then see what company built it.
    Not the other way around!
    That's what this thread is supposed to find out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by andy.muc
    Get back to topic!!!
    It's not the question what company or wht country makes the best supercars overall...

    The question is: Which country makes or has made the best supercar?

    Just look for the best supercar ever made. Then see what company built it.
    Not the other way around!
    That's what this thread is supposed to find out!

    GEEEEE!!! smile my friend all doe I love German cars ill take Italy
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    Quote Originally Posted by QUATTRO MAN
    GEEEEE!!! smile my friend all doe I love German cars ill take Italy
    A Madonna finnaly someone who knows a thing or two. Sure I love Ferrari as all of you know and I am a fanboy sure I put Ferrari ahead of everything because Ferrari is the heart and sole of the automotive industry in my mind, but I know when other cars are better than a Ferrari, for example I always like the Diablo more the F50, and Ferrari do not produces Luxury Sedans or SUV's so they lose in those categories as well. Alright now Ferrari is not just a special badge on a Fiat, Ferrari is not made in a Fiat Factory, Ferrari is made in the Ferrari factory, and the people who work there are employed by Ferrari not Fiat so I suggest that you get your facts correct, you clearly do not know to much about Ferrari or Italian automobiles, and I can guarantee you that Ferrari, Lamoborghini, Alfa Romeo, Pagani are all built with more passion and more care, and more quality than anything from England or France. I think that people would much rather sit behind the wheel of a Ferrari 288 GTO over a Matra or Alpine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabio Ferrari
    Alright now Ferrari is not just a special badge on a Fiat, Ferrari is not made in a Fiat Factory, Ferrari is made in the Ferrari factory, and the people who work there are employed by Ferrari not Fiat so I suggest that you get your facts correct, you clearly do not know to much about Ferrari or Italian automobiles,
    BS !!
    Every 'marque' is built in a factory owned by the marque and built by employees of that marqe. bentely, Asont, Jaguar et al
    So your argumetn is AGAIN wrong in that it says some marquesa can't be coz they're Ford.
    You try to win both ways and only show lack of understanding of the car industry yourself
    But lets put THAT aside.....
    and I can guarantee you that Ferrari, Lamoborghini, Alfa Romeo, Pagani are all built with more passion and more care, and more quality than anything from England or France
    YOU SERIOUSLY THINK THAT ?
    You really are a fanboy aren't you.
    I'm not aware of ANY top marque which isn't designed and built with passion.
    Can you please name one ?
    'quality' ? Porsche are MUCH higher quality over the life of the car than Ferrari, I've seen it at first hand !!
    . I think that people would much rather sit behind the wheel of a Ferrari 288 GTO over a Matra or Alpine.
    OK, but I bet most folks would rather sit behidn the wheel of a Ford Mondeao than a Ferrari 400GT.
    Single car comparisons are pointless and irrelevant.
    I've not claimed that Matra or Alpine are supercars Letting the usual 'fanboy defense' get in the way - ie rubbish what you THINK the other persons said.
    I contributed to this thread because your bias is SO HUGE I thought it worthy of asking you to explore other poosibilities. You don't want to are unwilling to or are scared to. Shame as there are LOTS of cars as good as and better than Ferrari out there.
    and in the history of Supercars, there are many contenders with only a hairs-breadth of difference.
    In those differences come our own personal preferences and we shoudl recognise and relish THOSE
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    My favourite types of supercars are the hardcore types like Koenigsegg, TVR, Noble etc and individual ones like the Zonda, Joss and S7...out of all the countries of origin for them, i dont know if i could accurately rate them as each manufacturer would have different demands and influences on their designs etc. from them being in different countries, like for example, Matthew Thomas when he designed the JOSS, i dare say wouldve gone through things alot differently to say Noble or TVR..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabio Ferrari
    A Madonna finnaly someone who knows a thing or two. Sure I love Ferrari as all of you know and I am a fanboy sure I put Ferrari ahead of everything because Ferrari is the heart and sole of the automotive industry in my mind, but I know when other cars are better than a Ferrari, for example I always like the Diablo more the F50, and Ferrari do not produces Luxury Sedans or SUV's so they lose in those categories as well. Alright now Ferrari is not just a special badge on a Fiat, Ferrari is not made in a Fiat Factory, Ferrari is made in the Ferrari factory, and the people who work there are employed by Ferrari not Fiat so I suggest that you get your facts correct, you clearly do not know to much about Ferrari or Italian automobiles, and I can guarantee you that Ferrari, Lamoborghini, Alfa Romeo, Pagani are all built with more passion and more care, and more quality than anything from England or France. I think that people would much rather sit behind the wheel of a Ferrari 288 GTO over a Matra or Alpine.
    All doe I admire your love for Ferrari but truly there are other super cars out there isn't it? I truly love Italian cars but I do also love other cars,please don't get me wrong but I think it will boring just to have one favorite car,,,,and yes we all have our opinions, for example,,,many people think Koenigsegg is the super car,,,,,I don't think so,but its my opinion only....I would not trade Lamborghini or Ferrari whit this car never,,,,will what I am trying to say is Ferrari is not the only super car out there....P.S I love Italy.......beautiful country....

    except KOENIGEGG this are my favoritess....
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    Quote Originally Posted by QUATTRO MAN
    All doe I admire your love for Ferrari but truly there are other super cars out there isn't it? I truly love Italian cars but I do also love other cars,please don't get me wrong but I think it will boring just to have one favorite car,,,,and yes we all have our opinions, for example,,,many people think Koenigsegg is the super car,,,,,I don't think so,but its my opinion only....I would not trade Lamborghini or Ferrari whit this car never,,,,will what I am trying to say is Ferrari is not the only super car out there....P.S I love Italy.......beautiful country....

    except KOENIGEGG this are my favoritess....

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