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    Quote Originally Posted by charged View Post
    until corners and braking are involved, very fast in the straights but a bit of a disappointment when you look at the overall performance. Given a similar hp to weight ratio the car will always own a bike
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    And given a similar price, the bike will always own the car.

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    driven both fast and on the same roads/tracks.
    Bikes and cars are different beasts.
    Sweeping twisties and bikes own.
    Lots of hard braking and cars win.
    Bikes win most when they can either get upright and nail the throttle or straighten up curves more.
    But as kitdy says, on smile-per-buck a bike pulls the lead every time.

    PS: BMW's are not the fastest/best handling bikes out there either

    The problem off the line with bikes is hooking up. Cars have twice the contact and more leverage. Bikes are tiny patch and will lift the front thus slowign your pull. Smaller CC use revs and gear changes to make up for less torque. Quite believable the slower off the line. Been their and done that -- in both seats
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitdy View Post
    And given a similar price, the bike will always own the car.
    Saw a comparison billed as the "$36k bike vs $36k car" that pitted a caterham against some bike (don't remember which.) Caterham won. The problem is that these comparisons often pit a soft car against a track oriented bike, with the same results as a soft car vs track car (think amg vs elise.) Often this means that both sides are happy because the car people can say they won and the bike people can say they cost a fraction as much and almost won.

    The reality is, as matra said, they're different beasts. Rarely will the same person track both of them. The bike's probably going to have better power to weight, and the car's probably going to have more grip, and neither one's really better than the other. Just different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wwgkd View Post
    Saw a comparison billed as the "$36k bike vs $36k car" that pitted a caterham against some bike (don't remember which.) Caterham won. The problem is that these comparisons often pit a soft car against a track oriented bike, with the same results as a soft car vs track car (think amg vs elise.) Often this means that both sides are happy because the car people can say they won and the bike people can say they cost a fraction as much and almost won.

    The reality is, as matra said, they're different beasts. Rarely will the same person track both of them. The bike's probably going to have better power to weight, and the car's probably going to have more grip, and neither one's really better than the other. Just different.
    I don't know much about motorcycles, other than Ducati seem to be the two wheeled equivalent of Ferrari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine View Post
    PS: BMW's are not the fastest/best handling bikes out there either
    Not anymore.

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    I don't know much about motorcycles, other than Ducati seem to be the two wheeled equivalent of Ferrari.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndclasscitizen View Post
    They would be more like Maserati or Lamborghini, wouldn't they?
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    Nope, Ferrari. What do you think the F in [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Agusta_F4_series]MV Agusta F4 series - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] stands for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndclasscitizen View Post
    Nope, Ferrari. What do you think the F in MV Agusta F4 series - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia stands for?
    Holy f-k! That's fast. :O

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndclasscitizen View Post
    Nope, Ferrari. What do you think the F in MV Agusta F4 series - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia stands for?
    No, no I meant as a type of company not their connections.

    Ducati, is the known company which make fast red vehicles which win races sometimes. Like Ferrari.

    MV Augusta has a glorious racing past, and make fast vehicles, but they don't race anymore and are usually only known by the enthusiast. Like Maserati.
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    Not sure if this has been posted yet but it's an added incentive to buy a Lamborghini!

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSeEMBi6WyM]YouTube - Lamborghini Murcielago parking free[/ame]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    other than Ducati seem to be the two wheeled equivalent of Ferrari.
    True.. Over priced ... Over hyped ... Owned by posers who seldom EVERY get above 50mph and require a mortgage for servicing
    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndclasscitizen View Post
    Not anymore.
    Never were. Only in the minds of BMW fanistas and their marketing department.
    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndclasscitizen View Post
    Nope, Ferrari. What do you think the F in MV Agusta F4 series - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia stands for?
    STOOD for, they quickly dumped most of the overweight car engine crap and redesigned them like bike engines -- MUCH lighter and better bang
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine View Post
    True.. Over priced ... Over hyped ... Owned by posers who seldom EVERY get above 50mph and require a mortgage for servicing
    That's exactly what I meant.
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    Sizing Up Sperm | Video | | National Geographic Channel

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    "A woman without curves is like a road without bends, you might get to your destination quicker but the ride is boring as hell'

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    Here's the same thing, except better produced and less Cloverfield camera shake.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLBfgImiRGo&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - Walther Rohrl drives the Audi Quattro up the Col de Turini - autocar.co.uk[/ame]

    There's a short interview with him too.

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