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Suprised nobody mentioned the C6 until 4th page, it's going to be a future classic for sure. I'd also like to nominate the Alfa Romeo 147 GTA, the last evolution of the classic Arese V6 engine. The BMW M3 also makes for a good candidate. And that's all I can't think for now.Originally Posted by drakkie
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Has anyone mentioned the Z3M Coupe yet?
I think that has definite classic potential. Great engine, lairy and characterful chassis, and quirky/controversial looks. Not very common either as far as I know, so should be a decent candidate for a future classic.
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I'd want to nominate three more, the Alfa Romeo 75 (last rear driven Alfa), the Lancia Thema 8.32 (first and last Ferrari powered Q-car, so far) and the Lancia Thesis (the true descendant of the Flaminia berlina).
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Toyota Corolla AE86(with the prices being charged now, it is in classic car price territory)
Dodge Viper SRT-10
Ford GT
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It's value is bennefiting with the drift gangs obsession. On the other hand, the drifters are destroying the few original AE86's still around.
The prices asked for the AE86 today are absolutely irrational. I've seem many at prices higher than those of a MX-5 NA. Wich is a nonsense if we take in account that:
a) The MX-5 is more recent
b) The AE86 is only 9bh more powerfull
c) The MX-5 is a roadster
d) The MX-5 has a way better rear suspension
e) The MX-5 has better weight distribution and a lower gravity center.
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The AE 86... dunno about that. It's not really a classic. It's the latest craze that made it so popular. It's definately a classic though because it would be hard to find one that hasn't been touched by ricers, like the Type R's.
In other words everything the same as McReis said...
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Don't get me wrong. I love the AE86, since it's a beautiful, fun and reliable car wich was successful in rallying. Rallying and racing gave it a nice image that is now being destroyed by drifters ans ricers.
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I was trying to say that with the prices being charged, it being treated as if it was a classic
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I like it too, since it basically kept alive the spirit of the the original Celica when the new Celicas went to FWD and it looks great too. I just tend to like Hondas more than Toyotas.Don't get me wrong. I love the AE86, since it's a beautiful, fun and reliable car wich was successful in rallying. Rallying and racing gave it a nice image that is now being destroyed by drifters ans ricers.
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How did it do that when they both went out of production at around the same time, and AWD Celicas have been the top of the pile since the late 80s.
Or is this another case of drivetrain snobbery?
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Celicas survived until the late 90's in only their FWD forms and never retained their AWD drivetrains, that's why IMO I feel the AE86 was closer to the original Celica. Meanwhile the first generation of Celicas were completely RWD, and never had AWD until the Celicas went rallying. What type of drivetrain snobbery are you talking about?
It's sad to see that Toyota never went back to RWD. Their model lineup is far from even having any sports cars. Just two decades ago they were thriving with so many. Come to think of it now the AE86 should be a classic because it shows a period in time when times were better.
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My pick:
Alfa-Romeo 8C Competizione (as soon as it's produced)
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M3 GTR (and CSL)
Audi RS2 (the early 90s estate jointly developed with Porsche)
Opel Kadett (T-Car) 2.0 GSi Superboss (127kW for '91 n/a 2.0 litre is amazing!)
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dodge dakota convertible
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I find funny that you call it drivetrain snobbery. Aside from some hot-hatches, name some cars you'd love to own that aren't either RWD or AWD. It's not a question of snobbery. It's for some reason that the biggest and most prestiged companys never felt seduced by fwd (Mercedes, BMW, Jaguar). That's also the reason why original sports cars (not affordable adaptations of econo-boxes) aren't FWD...
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