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Thread: 2009 ZR1 Reaches 7:26.4 on the Nurburgring

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    Rally cars are vastly different to these cars, rally events are on public roads but the roads are closed (which rarely happens). The ZR1, Zonda and GTR would see its full potential in a proper race track and not on a road course like the ring.
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    ?eh? --- so all those rallies I've been doing on public roads that are NOT closed were a figment ?
    Rally cars to run on tarmac events are very much like these cars.
    ANY car will achieve a higher potential on a pukka race track because there are less adverse undulations, camber and better tarmac condition.
    What were you trying to say ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine View Post
    good point. THe single number is a good "all rounder" figure as I said at least more representative than the TopGear single lap or "normal" track times.
    yeah, i don't think on a track this large you can positivly say one car is better/faster than the other based on a few seconds difference.
    sub 8 min = fast

    Quote Originally Posted by monaroCountry View Post
    Rally cars are vastly different to these cars,
    um not tarmac rally cars...in fact iirc one of the stipulations is that you must keep stock suspension/ride hieght (for some categories anyway)
    Quote Originally Posted by monaroCountry View Post
    rally events are on public roads but the roads are closed (which rarely happens)
    just wtf do you think the nurburgring is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clutch-monkey View Post
    yeah, i don't think on a track this large you can positivly say one car is better/faster than the other based on a few seconds difference.
    sub 8 min = fast
    Definately the thing everyone shoudl remember.
    a second could even just be down to the normal variation of fuel grade !!
    um not tarmac rally cars...in fact iirc one of the stipulations is that you must keep stock suspension/ride hieght (for some categories anyway)
    Don't know about your regs.
    But UK national, international and WRC events don't stipulate ride height. Group N cars have to have "standard" suspension ... but can be adjusted ( and are) for diffrent springing, damping and ride height.
    At clubman/national level you get all sorts. Colin McRae had a Mark2 Escort with Subaru rear end suspension and transmission
    And then there's cars like the Darrian which is all custom.
    just wtf do you think the nurburgring is?
    What do you mean ?
    The Nordschleife ( so we're not confusing the long circuit with the GP one ) is a local government owned legal toll road. German traffic laws apply at all times on the road. If you can ignor the painted kerbs and the grafitti painted on the track then it's like country roads in most countries I've driven on in the world ! ( Actually I've seen the latter on Tour De France route )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine View Post
    Don't know about your regs.
    But UK national, international and WRC events don't stipulate ride height. Group N cars have to have "standard" suspension ... but can be adjusted ( and are) for diffrent springing, damping and ride height.
    At clubman/national level you get all sorts. Colin McRae had a Mark2 Escort with Subaru rear end suspension and transmission
    And then there's cars like the Darrian which is all custom.
    well from what i can gather from events like the suncoast classic rally etc etc there's some restrictions for suspension - whether it's just a recommendation or for practicality i don't know (my car is standard ride height or close to it iirc from one of the rallies).
    just something i've heard around the pits. i think it's mostly to do with people bottoming out?
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    I read the CAMS regs and also looked over the Suncoast 2009 regs and there is NO reg on ground clearance. I can imagine it may be an "advisory" so that owners of classic cars don't tear them up on things like speed bumps
    Sometimes organisers have to do specific stage regs/advisories to protect the road surface, haven't come across a height one before Our "Rally in the park", we restrict turbo'ed 4WD. You can have or the other, not both.
    Make sure it's not jsut a wiley old competitor telling you this to make sure you can't beat his times
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    pretty sure its only advisory, A guy I know ran his s13 silvia( dont laugh he came 4th) in the comp section and he didnt set it up for cams regs.. he had it riding slightly higher than he does on the track and with longer springs etc for extra droop due to undulations
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