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    Quote Originally Posted by RacingManiac View Post
    I think you could pull off warranty coverage on that one, and even if you can't you are still undercutting anyone of those cars by a massive margin....
    If you do it under warranty, the car has to be shipped to Japan, which means no GT-R for 3 months...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Canuck View Post
    Impressive numbers for the new LP560, wonder if it can pull tracktimes like a Scud...

    Dissapointing numbers by the GT2 however

    And like Henk said the GTR did very well among this hardcore crowd.
    how are the numbers for the GT2 disappointing? they look line ball with everthing else to me
    Quote Originally Posted by RacingManiac View Post
    So I can spend 50% of the money and get about 95% there in terms of outright performance.....
    guess it comes down to feel and fun factor..
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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4 View Post
    not bad for the GTR, which weighs in about 300 kg more than the competition, costs half of it, and carries 4 people if required....(but that is certainly now what you want to hear when you made this post...)
    Quote Originally Posted by F1_Master View Post
    It sure can. 1 second behind on Hockenheim & Balocco. And at Vairano, the 430S pulls a 1:15.159 & the LP560-4, a 1:15.714.

    Lamborghini has done an amazing job with the LP560-4.
    No one on this post could even get close to putting up these numbers in any of these cars anyway, so the differences are irrelevant - they're all really fast.

    So it comes down to personal preferences and I prefer the Ferrari.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Canuck View Post
    Now (and this is unlikely) what if the made a Superleggera 560? winzor
    Quote Originally Posted by Kooper View Post
    They'd probably have to rename it to something like Superleggera 580 or 590-4 if they bump the power up. Not a bad idea at all.

    I really hope they bring out a 560-2 (RWD) out sometime as well, if for no other reason than to see some more wrecked Lambo pics. Am I evil for wanting that?
    I don't think they'd really need to add any power at all, really. The SL only had 10 extra horses over a normal Gallardo, so if they added all the bits of the Superleggera to the LP560-4, it'd probably be 2-3 seconds faster than the Scuderia without any extra power.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    It's still just an Audi.
    Oh my. Well, I'm def. not going to even consider wanting one now.
    Please, there's nothing wrong with it having Audi tech. in it, considering Audi is already a well-respected brand itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by NicFromLA View Post
    No one on this post could even get close to putting up these numbers in any of these cars anyway, so the differences are irrelevant - they're all really fast.
    What does that have to do anything, though? I'm just posting the times the 560-4 has ran on the same tracks as the Scuderia because The_Canuck was wondering if it was as fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clutch-monkey View Post
    guess it comes down to feel and fun factor..
    Feel and fun factor wouldn't even be in this comparision, simply because the market segment is completely different.

    People who can afford GTR won't even consider the other 3....since they can't afford them....he won't pay 200k just because a Ferrari is more fun....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan View Post
    If you do it under warranty, the car has to be shipped to Japan, which means no GT-R for 3 months...
    On what do you base this statement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4 View Post
    On what do you base this statement?
    There are lots of posts on it on various GT-R forums from owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RacingManiac View Post
    Feel and fun factor wouldn't even be in this comparision, simply because the market segment is completely different.

    People who can afford GTR won't even consider the other 3....since they can't afford them....he won't pay 200k just because a Ferrari is more fun....
    it's still a consideration imo, i'd pay less for a slower car than the GTR if it was more fun, and there are others who feel the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan View Post
    There are lots of posts on it on various GT-R forums from owners.
    and Nissan will not provide them with a temporary replacement car?
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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4 View Post
    and Nissan will not provide them with a temporary replacement car?
    surely they would, but it might not be another GTR (given the demand)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clutch-monkey View Post
    surely they would, but it might not be another GTR (given the demand)?
    strange that demand for a car could be so high in spite of these "lousy" conditions. In how many cases has this already actually occurred or are we still talking theory?
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    no idea, i thought it was just rumour and/or the PR cars that were affected.

    assuming this does happen and is not uncommon, then perhaps the car's figures are keeping demand up
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    Quote Originally Posted by clutch-monkey View Post
    no idea, i thought it was just rumour and/or the PR cars that were affected.

    assuming this does happen and is not uncommon, then perhaps the car's figures are keeping demand up
    it is probably a rumour spread by Corvette fanboys to disqualify the car. I am sure if this was an American product we would have had very different conversations than seen before.....
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    All in all its unlikely that something can be easily broken on a car, especially a Japanese car(since the manufacturers demends so much more out of everyone, suppliers and OEs alike), when most car have to go through some ridiculous warranty study since at the end the cost comes back to the manufacturer(most cars goes through like a 5 years design cycle, 3 to design it and last 2 to test the crap out of everything to write up warranty specs...so far the 2 companies I worked for is the same, one makes seat, and the other makes shocks...)....Press cars as I've said are some of of the most abused in the world....since a) its not yours and b) people who does review needs to find out what the car does at the limit, and often they don't necessarily know what they are doing....
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    Quote Originally Posted by F1_Master View Post
    Oh my. Well, I'm def. not going to even consider wanting one now.
    Please, there's nothing wrong with it having Audi tech. in it, considering Audi is already a well-respected brand itself.
    Audis are just exepnsive Volkswagens for people who can't appreciate a proper car, I'm sorry.

    Damn it, I said it out loud...

    And the completely messed with the traditional Lamborghini naming system.
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