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But as of the end of the FIRST Iraq war....was he still in power?
Thats a good 5 years where nothing happened on him.
What brought about action a full 6 years after he became "Official U.S. Policy" that wasn't available in 1998?
A public willing to believe they were under threat? A government willing to mislead the global community to exercise their ability to invade?
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Because the U.N. recommended that Saddam's army should be kicked out of Kuwait, but not to invade Iraq or remove Saddam from power.Originally Posted by IBrake4Rainbows
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Since when does the US listen to what the UN says? Oh right, they helped Create the UN.....
I guess thats whats changed about US foreign policy.
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Back in those days America was content to impose death on VAST amounts of Iraqi kids ..because it was "worth it"
Much more death and destruction to hapless Iraqi citizens from serial offender USA than what even Saddam perpertatedLesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price, we think the price is worth it.
--60 Minutes (5/12/96)
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Obviously, the U.S. DID listen to the U.N. in 1991! Whether the was right or not, history will judge.
You are forgetting something else... do not refer to the Iraq/Kuwait war as the United States' war. Many other countries were involved in it, too.
You may as well ask why did Australia or Great Britain allow Saddam to stay in power.
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Madeleine Albright! Lol. One of the worst Secertary of States' we've ever had!
"We have heard" half a million... I've also heard of Bigfoot!
Don't blame a murderous dictator and the hundreds of thousands he had killed or were killed indirectly on the U.S.!
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Countries that also followed into the Second Iraq war. Much to my chagrin.
And...in fact, what was the poin tof that last statement, the US listened to the UN & left Iraq in the lurch, then stuffed them up the second time without sanction from the UN.
The United States were most vocal about his position in power when it was suitable to foreign policy.
And it is true there were others involved in the Iraq/Kuwait war. who was the largest member of the invasion force though?
When the United States is the country with the power to do something about it, and they choose not to because the cost is "Worth it", the United States must shoulder some of the blame. See also Darfur, Kosovo etc.
You can't pick & choose which policies & people you like within administrations. Either you accept the entirety of the United States, or you accept nothing
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It's also covered in Wiki.
On what basis are they considered "relatively accurate" ? By whom ??Iraq body count... Iraq Body Count... is know to be relatively accurate (there is no 100% accurate source).
interesting to go through some of their articles where - for example - they ridiculed the Lancet numbers and then right at the end added an editorial saying how "busy" they were receiving 300 REPORTS of death "every few days". Now being consservative, lets that one death per report and few==3. That's 35,000 deaths/year THEY HAVE DIRECT REPORTS OF !!
Take that to be 2/report and every 2 days and it's 100,000 PER YEAR.
And that does NOT take account of statistical ratio of reported to unreported deaths, so can be lot higher
I do wish biased groups used their own tactics used to cast doubt on others numbers would have the decency and honesty to apply the same rules to themselves
Irrelevant.Also don't forget that many of the casualties are from homicide bombers.
There was supposed to be enduring peace and safety for the population.
Would those deaths be occurring if we weren't there ?
You can't seperate types of casualties out to reduce the numbers, a death is a death
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i DO NOT support this or any other war, in the current day and age wars are made for finacial reasons, not justice or anything else. Peoples lives are taken away for money, plain and simple, thoose who believe they are fighting for something else are wrong or have no idea of the world they are living in.
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OT: What server are you on, ruim?
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I have a main Lock named Gorefest in the Trollbane server and i'm starting a rogue named Mangler in Grim Batol server, EU servers don't forget
And you?
"Religious belief is the “path of least resistance”, says Boyer, while disbelief requires effort."
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Cause your too blinded by your arguments to notice what IBR4, was even talking about? He was obviously laughing at the term as anyone with a clear head could have gathered.
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Most people won’t but that is not why you are in Iraq. Saddam was a prick but that does not justify the invasion unless you are going to invade every country ruled by an autocratic murdering ruler or embarking on a crusade to emancipate every community that is under such rule. And the further question then arises as to whose place is it to write the book on morality in government?
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I have a main shaman named Nakajima on Blackwing Lair. I'm only level 20I have a main Lock named Gorefest in the Trollbane server and i'm starting a rogue named Mangler in Grim Batol server, EU servers don't forget
And you?
And speaking of that, I need to go get an account card, because my account expired
I had a lock on my brother's account before I got mine, and it was pretty decent. I did affliction, but it's terrible to level with, I should have gone destruction
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While Saddam may have been a murdering bastard, he also ran a secular dictatorship, and wasn't well liked amongst the Islamic fundamentalists because of it.
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