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I sorta thought so too and the spy reason may be bullcrap but the Wiki article seemed to say that there was Russian papers that may indicate that there was a spy at Avro. Maybe this was coincidental however and not the real reason that it was destroyed.Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine
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the true delta wings - i.e. no canards and tailless, like the early delta's - have to take off and land faster than necessary because of heavy elevon download. so they need longer runways etc etc. add to that poor low speed handling.. style over substance lol.
That, and ejecting from a mirage III breaks both your legs in two places.
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then dont eject. your choice.
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i dunno, it is a mirage III..
edit: at least it let you eject, unlike certain early build F/A-18's, lol.
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Real men eject through the floor!
EDIT: I believe a real production plane had them as well.
EDIT2: Ahh, right. Early F-104s. so you wouldn't get hit by the T-tail.
...Say, didn't that plane have a reputation for killing pilots?
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because that worked so well previously :|
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a russian bomber iirc, and only one of the crew ejected downwards i think? the other two ejected upwards lol (short straw?)Real men eject through the floor!
EDIT: I believe a real production plane had them as well.
i have a book you need to read re: air combat.
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This thread makes me want to jump on HAWX.. Its an enjoyable flight game..
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knew it was a tupolev of some kind.. but it's the other way around. In the Tu-22, the pilot ejects upwards, the other two eject downwards. Now someone find if the Tu-22 was ever used for low level bombing
LOL. two planes used downward ejection? i suppose the enemy would never suspect it..Real men eject through the floor!
EDIT: I believe a real production plane had them as well.
EDIT2: Ahh, right. Early F-104s. so you wouldn't get hit by the T-tail.
...Say, didn't that plane have a reputation for killing pilots?
anyway.. F-16XL.
roughly double the payload of early model F-16's (so 16 tons nearly). F-15E was adopted instead though, so they were given to NASA for aeronautical study.
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my aunt worked for nasa for a few years at edwards afb and she used to tell me about all the crazy stuff she saw flying all day. saw that f-15, and a few other experimental variations. also saw the SR flying regularly.
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Interesting wing design, I wonder how it flew.
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pics below for clarification. also, note the surface area of the wing is 120% larger than standard F-16, and fuel capacity is 82% larger. double the payload; half again the range.The first aircraft was fitted with an active suction titanium glove encasing the left wing and delivered to the Ames-Dryden Flight Research Facility at Edwards AFB. Designed and built by North American Aviation (a division of Rockwell International), the glove had laser-cut holes that were nominally 0.0025 in (0.0635 mm) diameter. Distance between holes varied between 0.010 and 0.055 in (0.25 and 1.40 mm) depending on the suction. The glove covered over five square feet (0.5 m²) of the wing. It was intended to suck away turbulent airflow over the wing, restoring laminar flow and reducing drag. The aircraft was also involved in testing sonic boom characteristics, takeoff performance, and engine noise, for NASA's civil transport program
lol.The second aircraft (a two seater) had its experimental engine replaced with a General Electric F110-129. It accidentally achieved supercruise
apparently they are being wheeled out of storage, as NASA is looking at the viability of returning them to flight status and testing further upgrades on them.
yeah, some of the stuff that you see is crazy, but it makes you wonder...what about the stuff they keep under wraps!
apparently more stable and smoother at high speeds and low altitudes
edit: factsheet here
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/n...-023-DFRC.html
some interesting stuff.
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the Thud
of all 800 or so built, 50% were lost over Vietnam - flying at roughly 1100km/h at tree top level has all sorts of hazards.
2nd pic shows one on fire - the explosion from the SAM that hit it is on the left.
3rd and 4th are thud's over hanoi.
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1st pic is of a NVA anti-aircraft gun, pic taken by a reconaissance f-105.
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