2009 F1 predictions

[Ferrer]

f6, this is why we formed KFL (Kitdy Ferrer Leon) racing enterprises to buy the Honda F1 team - we truly are experts and maybe one day, we will make road cars as well McLaren style.

Our main car will be the KFL F1 and will have 2000 hp form a V16 and it will be the fastest/sexiest/stupidest production car . A primary goal specifically for Ferrer will be to make sure that it laps the 'ring in record time.

I will start practising on my Xboxstation 360.

[Bleeding Heart]

f6, this is why we formed KFL (Kitdy Ferrer Leon) racing enterprises to buy the Honda F1 team - we truly are experts and maybe one day, we will make road cars as well McLaren style.

Our main car will be the KFL F1 and will have 2000 hp form a V16 and it will be the fastest/sexiest/stupidest production car . A primary goal specifically for Ferrer will be to make sure that it laps the 'ring in record time.

with that engine, i will not be surprised, providing it has enough fuel economy...

[Cyco]

. GOD SAVE F1!

Somebody save my eyes from any more of your appallingly written posts

[Kitdy]

Not the proper thread exactly, but there is not yet a 2009 F1 Season thread and thisdoes not really warrant a new thread.

Tata Motors will be sponsoring Ferrari in 2009 apparently.

Ferrari - Powered by Tata.

[wwgkd]

Not the proper thread exactly, but there is not yet a 2009 F1 Season thread and thisdoes not really warrant a new thread.

Tata Motors will be sponsoring Ferrari in 2009 apparently.

Ferrari - Powered by Tata.

Wow. Just wow.

[LeonOfTheDead]

Not the proper thread exactly, but there is not yet a 2009 F1 Season thread and thisdoes not really warrant a new thread.

Tata Motors will be sponsoring Ferrari in 2009 apparently.

Ferrari - Powered by Tata.

and it should be the main and only sponsor too according to what Luca (that's how Ferrari's workers call him) declaired to an Italian television.

[fpv_gtho]

If true, its not too obscure considering the Fiat sponsored Yamaha's in MotoGP.

[Bleeding Heart]

Why did Ferrari think of that???

[LeonOfTheDead]

Why did Ferrari think of that???

because Tata pays, because they already have some relationships going on, because in this way perhaps it would be easy to have the XF platform for the Alfa 169.

[LTSmash]

So now that we know aero is going to be significantly reduced for 2009, does anyone think drivers are going to take Eau Rouge flat out or will they start playing it a little safe?

[LeonOfTheDead]

So now that we know aero is going to be significantly reduced for 2009, does anyone think drivers are going to take Eau Rouge flat out or will they start playing it a little safe?

slick tires could help them once again

[fpv_gtho]

Its hard to know, the high speed approach of Eau Rouge means the effects of the slicks will be negligble whilst the different aero will be critical. Theres also 1000rpm less next year and engines that have to last twice as long, so invariably they'll be less powerful. They take it flat out now at 300km/h, but in 2005 they backed off but still went through at 320km/h.

[LeonOfTheDead]

Its hard to know, the high speed approach of Eau Rouge means the effects of the slicks will be negligble whilst the different aero will be critical. Theres also 1000rpm less next year and engines that have to last twice as long, so invariably they'll be less powerful. They take it flat out now at 300km/h, but in 2005 they backed off but still went through at 320km/h.

what I meant is that despite the lack of downforce, the slicks would offer an higher coefficient of friction (or simply grip), so the two factors could balance themselves.

possibly they would still take the bends flat out, but at a lower speed.

back in the days the top speed possibilities where much higher, not because the cars were actually faster (even if in some cases it was actually so), but because right now the top speed is significantly reduced by the downforce regulations, the different gearbox ratios, and even a more constant use of power:
being more usable and doseable, a good part of the available power is already used in the bend, so accelerating while exiting the bend generates a different and less brutal acceleration than back in the days.

approaching those Spa's high speed corners in a 962 required a lot of control, the car wasn't capable of putting down all the power as efficiently as right now, so the use of the throttle inside of the bends was very delicate, but while exiting they had to pass say from a 50% throttle to 100% resulting in a devastating different acceleration.
considering the high capabilities of such a car, drivin trough that corner at 100% of throttle would result in an unmanageable acceleration.

right now they just need reduce the throttle a little, downforce and tires help them using way more throttle inside of the bend, I would say up to 90%, so even using 100% of the throttle inside of the bend wouldn't result in a massively different situation.
indeed at the end of the Kemmel straight, the top speed isn't much higher than that inside of Eau Rouge and Radillion, the car is already near to its limit, so the acceleration is quite mitigated.
with older cars, I suppose that managing to drive trough those bends flat out would have resulted in much higer speed.
imo.

[Bleeding Heart]

what I meant is that despite the lack of downforce, the slicks would offer an higher coefficient of friction (or simply grip), so the two factors could balance themselves.

possibly they would still take the bends flat out, but at a lower speed.

back in the days the top speed possibilities where much higher, not because the cars were actually faster (even if in some cases it was actually so), but because right now the top speed is significantly reduced by the downforce regulations, the different gearbox ratios, and even a more constant use of power:
being more usable and doseable, a good part of the available power is already used in the bend, so accelerating while exiting the bend generates a different and less brutal acceleration than back in the days.

approaching those Spa's high speed corners in a 962 required a lot of control, the car wasn't capable of putting down all the power as efficiently as right now, so the use of the throttle inside of the bends was very delicate, but while exiting they had to pass say from a 50% throttle to 100% resulting in a devastating different acceleration.
considering the high capabilities of such a car, drivin trough that corner at 100% of throttle would result in an unmanageable acceleration.

right now they just need reduce the throttle a little, downforce and tires help them using way more throttle inside of the bend, I would say up to 90%, so even using 100% of the throttle inside of the bend wouldn't result in a massively different situation.
indeed at the end of the Kemmel straight, the top speed isn't much higher than that inside of Eau Rouge and Radillion, the car is already near to its limit, so the acceleration is quite mitigated.
with older cars, I suppose that managing to drive trough those bends flat out would have resulted in much higer speed.
imo.

Slicks wouldn't help you much if you got caught by the rain at the wrong place at the wrong time though.

[LeonOfTheDead]

Slicks wouldn't help you much if you got caught by the rain at the wrong place at the wrong time though.

pointless. even wearing heavy rains and hitting a dry spot wouldn't help you.