Coming right up.

[NSXType-R]

That sounds freaky. Does the same happen for old MR2's also?

I'll keep that in mind when I drive.

[Vindesh17]

you are understeering in a fwd car, wheels turned more than you are actually are turning. you lift off the gas, or hit the brakes, and the weight all shifts forward. this allows the front tires to the all at once grip, and it yanks the front end around, and the back end just falls away.

I did that in our van, '02 Pontiac Montana, great sounding engine might I add. Anyway, needless to say this was on an empty snow covered street and the back end just snapped around on me.

[2ndclasscitizen]

That sounds freaky. Does the same happen for old MR2's also?

Yes. It's true of most, if not all mid-engined cars, but IIRC the MR2s were quite bad. The Mazda 3 is quite good for a bit lift-off oversteer

[Bob]

with the traction control off, you can gently coax it between under and oversteer with your right foot alone. ive gotten really good at freeway on ramps.

Now I've never driven a mini but having said that I have to ask this question... How does this car with reportedly good tight handling get unsettled at such low speeds? And why do I, in my supposedly terrible handling overweight american car have to take ramps like those at ungodly speeds to even approach the limits of grip? How fast are you talking about going? I feel comfortable taking ramps at 40-50 mph over the advisory limits, which is about 25 mph over the legal limit, and whether you're a good driver or not it seems to me like merging at that speed is a bit reckless. I've never quite understood people's claims of exploring the limits of there handling on on/off ramps.

[DesmoRob]

Wow, thats quite the crash. The guys on the scooter were quite lucky. Had they been a couple seconds faster and they would've got nailed.

[whiteballz]

I'll have you know we're both supreme motorists, abiding by all rules and regulations at all times..

O RLY?

I missed a school zone sign and did 50 through it instead of 30.

I rest my case. + that would have failed someone in australia.

[DesmoRob]

O RLY?

Actually no, it was sarcasm.

I rest my case. + that would have failed someone in australia.

Oops?. It's not like I'm a moron, not seeing a subtle white sign doesn't mean that I'm not fully aware of what's going on in the environment around me. On top of that, being examined made me slightly nervous, so I was concentrating on keeping my speed down and checking my mirrors every so often to show her that I was weary of my surroundings. It was bad timing is all.

[clutch-monkey]

i got booked in a school zone once, because my sister was still in school at the time and was on holidays.
completely forgot that state schools and private schools have different holiday times...

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

Congrats to the both of you
Sam, I'll be back down in London from the 6th Jan, you WILL drop by now
Rob, yet to catch you on MSN for that pic you wanted.

Thanks dude

I'll definitely be around. We'll have a student's weekend or something and yeah, Rob is difficult to catch on MSN- 8 hour time zone difference!

[IBrake4Rainbows]

I'm totally never driving in englandland again. your dangerous little island is no longer safe for human consumption.

I'm waiting for the 206 "mods" with "Z0rst" and 'nawws"....

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

I'm totally never driving in englandland again. your dangerous little island is no longer safe for human consumption.

I'm waiting for the 206 "mods" with "Z0rst" and 'nawws"....

You'll be OK, as I'll be your chauffeur, and all other road users bow to my might.

And we discussed the £3.50 "OMG 20BHP CHIPZ00RS!!11!!!!eleven!!!" that were on eBay already... no way!

[IBrake4Rainbows]

Stupid Chips. Stupid French Cars. Stupid English ness.

be warned - whatever you do to me in England Land will be returned double in the Antipodes

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

Stupid Chips. Stupid French Cars. Stupid English ness.

be warned - whatever you do to me in England Land will be returned double in the Antipodes

It is a stupid chip, but the car itself and my Englishness are good

So that means I can get some decent things... if I just buy you one Ferrari...

[IBrake4Rainbows]

....I'll have my english fiends steal it and fedex it here

Please, do so

[Clique]

well done lads...i passed on 5th of this month...i got 6 minors though but i passed in 2 and a half months so its not too bad...
enjoy driving in the fog...