yeah, Sid, never trust Wiki
Too many fanboys and "rumours" get written up and pasted into Wiki sources
used to be a "challenge" to see how long you coudl be listed on Wiki for somethgin outrageous
I-4
I-6
V-6
V-8
Box 4
Box 6
Don't know
yeah, Sid, never trust Wiki
Too many fanboys and "rumours" get written up and pasted into Wiki sources
used to be a "challenge" to see how long you coudl be listed on Wiki for somethgin outrageous
"A woman without curves is like a road without bends, you might get to your destination quicker but the ride is boring as hell'
You are correct... but so am I. You are correct that the lowest power V8 that was a member of the same basic engine family was less than the 345 of the LS1. I was thinking about that which is why I said LSx thus restricting the claims to basically the motors that did time in the Corvette.
Although I generically call that whole generation of GM V8s LSx that isn't a very good description on my part since they are related to the truck engines which were never called LSx.
I wasn't aware that the "LS1" came in anything other than ~345hp. I think the later ones were a bit more. My get out of jail free card would be "were the Holden motors actually called 'LSx'?"
Anyway, you are right to point out that the family of V8s did have less powerful motors.
Holden bumph tended to call them GenIII, but they were LSx engines. They started at about 300bhp.
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Ha-ha,
Yes, aware of that!
In former days I had spent hours, days even, comparing different production engines and the BMW sixes always seemed to shine.
Looked a little deeper and noticed at the same hp per litre as other config engines the straight sixes were shining.
Yes, of course I later became aware there are too many variables (which camshaft used, state of tune etc.) but I am biased to the straight six.
The wonderful McLaren engine was based on two M3 straight sixes. The original M3 was nothing more than the 3453cc M1/M5 six with two cylinders chopped off; that's what determined the capacity, 2302cc.
Even Chevrolet in the early days was struck on the straight-six until that Polish guy Alex Duntov went and designed the first production small block V8 for them.
So I've asked some additional explanations to my teacher... but he didn't reply, basically. He just underlined how, with inline engines, it's easier to get harmonics of the same phase acting on the crank and at the same time having them with a pulse close or identical to the natural pulse of the crank.
I'm pretty sure he had a strong reason to say that's more frequent with say an I4 or I6 VS other configurations, he just wasn't willing to say it.
That's mainly because he either tells everything on something or he doesn't say anything at all. It would have probably taken more than the 5 minutes he was giving me to explain the whole deal I guess.
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"wasn't willing to say" rofl
"A woman without curves is like a road without bends, you might get to your destination quicker but the ride is boring as hell'
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i chose the I6, no idea why.
or maybe realised that with modern materials the days of resonance IN a crank are gone at any revs below the point a piston would disintegrate Lightened and balanced cranks ftw
I reckon he confused static balance, dynamic balance and vibration
"A woman without curves is like a road without bends, you might get to your destination quicker but the ride is boring as hell'
No way he confused by that much. The worst he can do is confusing "a" with "A" in a page of equations. The man is like a computer, in every aspect.
In his mind no matter how good modern materials and technologies are, they are still not perfect. He was also contemplating cranks in other applications, so not only ICEs.
He even jocked about the fact he himself thought that stuff was a bit too much on the theoretical side of things in the past, but then faced those equations many times over his various projects.
He knows way too much, really, so many times he just can't simplify things. Too many mistakes would be done!!!
I still have to do his the exam so everything he says is like the bible to me, and after the exam, well, the real world will be there for me to see
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Correct. The small-block V8 was an engineering project run by Ed Cole and introduced in 1955 in 265ci form. Zora Arkus Duntov was born in Belgium to Russian Jewish parents... he took his last name from his mother's second husband. At the very beginning of WW2 he emigrated to the USA and set up an engineering shop in New York with his brother Yura. GM hired him on the strength of the design work they had proven in modifying the Ford flathead V8 into a dominant racing engine. That company was Ardun, and their OHV heads on the Ford 60 could be considered GM's impetus to develop the SBC.
EDIT: FWIW, Chevy's "stovebolt" I6 was introduced in 1929 and remained in production both at GM and under license well into the '90s.
Quite successful in it's own right.
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