Which car maker attracts the worst fans?

[fpv_gtho]

i think if they dont get into the top 5 next year, they may as well give up.....with over half a billion on the budget, they shouldnt be a tail end team.....like come on, their race drivers are Ralf Shumacher and Jarno Trulli, and their 3rd driver is the oldest guy in the paddock, Olivier Panis and theyve got Mike Gascoyne i think its spelt, who was with Renault for 2003

[Falcon500]

BMW's owner think they are "the man" and once ion their bmw they become selfish, drive aggresive and pushy, always park wrong etcetera...you got bmw in australia too right ??

Noooooooooo....mate didnt you know we only got electricty here in the last 30 years lol

Jokes and stirings aside i used to work at the used section of rolfe classic BMW as a detailer/yardie and the buyers they attract well....ive never had so many people look down on me....and the dealer princabel wasnt the happiest chappie either....

Ferarri fans are annoying for the a fore metioned reasons....also a majority will never be able to afford one....

But on that note fanboys are always annoying...its a tought one but ill probly go holden (you can thank goodo and that bloke imet at the pub for that)

[Luciferous]

Yeah well I bet Honda was damn glad that Button has to stay on another year, becauuse he could have turned the BMW Williams car into a weapon, highlighting the erm, inadequacies of the BAR car

[whiteballz]

falc, do you happen to be named owen?

[charged]

i think toyota are a great small car company. they need to go back to rallying though.

like what neal bates has done to that little carolla. spliced it with an old GT4 celica.

I wouldnt exactly call Toyota a small motor company, they call buy and sell ford australia and holden many times over,My brother owns a auto elec bis lots of ford .holdens etc.As he says if he depended on Toyota for his bread and butter work he would go broke in a week.By the way we both drive Toyota's.Was a Ford and Chrysler man all my life now I have seen the light.Oh what a feeling!!!

[whiteballz]

i meant as in the make small cars. carolla, etc.

[Luciferous]

OK then name Toyota's flagship. Oh wait, that's right they don't even have one. Better yet name a current Toyota sports car worth driving. Toyota have made their money out of reliability and thats fine, but the cars are boring as hell

[fpv_gtho]

Yeah well I bet Honda was damn glad that Button has to stay on another year, becauuse he could have turned the BMW Williams car into a weapon, highlighting the erm, inadequacies of the BAR car

well next year the teams are starting with practically a clean slate, the last couple of years i guess the cars have just been evolutions of each other....case in point, 2003, McLaren was still using 2002's car, albeith heavily modified (MP4-17D) as the 2003 car (MP4-18) had bombed out in winter testing. This years car (MP4-19) was pretty much what the MP4-18 shouldve been, plus a little more, but it ALSO bombed out, so they brought out the MP4-19B

because of that, i dare say a top 3 team like Williams will be in a far better position to create a competitive car than a top 5 team like BAR, despite this years performances

[Luciferous]

Hmmm...maybe Williams should flame surface their car see if that'll help...

[Falcon500]

falc, do you happen to be named owen?

Nope the names Nick whys that anyways?

As for boring the celica and the MR2 where pretty cool littlecars...but it seems ditching them rather then makeing a new platform or makeing theirprices betterisnt viable.

[fpv_gtho]

nah, theyve already taken the wrong route with that Walrus nose and had to redesign it......

[Luciferous]

Oh well you can't ever call anything BMW is involved in boring....

[danno]

honda. easily by far. theres WAY too many honda/vtec fanboys/ricers around.

[fpv_gtho]

Oh well you can't ever call anything BMW is involved in boring....

you should ask Falcon500 what he thought of the 4 cyl BMW's he drove then i think boring was one of the words he used to describe how they drove

[charged]

OK then name Toyota's flagship. Oh wait, that's right they don't even have one. Better yet name a current Toyota sports car worth driving. Toyota have made their money out of reliability and thats fine, but the cars are boring as hell

Camry Sportivo they crank