Oliver Boulay is a fraud and loser

[SlickHolden]

Thats why the liberty starts to look great, Seen oine across the road here this old girl drives it and it looks allright
But i must say not only do i like the RX-8 but i also like the mazda 6 Good looking cars.

[fpv_gtho]

im pretty pissed the 6 MPS is being made as the sedan version, not the hatch. big mistake there IMO

but the new liberty's yeah theyre pretty good, its a bit of a bummer of how much they cost though

[Spastik_Roach]

I heard on an tv ad from Mitsi the VRX was 4wd. what gives?

[fpv_gtho]

its available in both FWD and AWD versions.....pity the Ralliart Magna wasnt AWD

[SlickHolden]

Or even a option RWD That could sell some more

[fpv_gtho]

it could be done, Audi with the A6 afterall i think offer it in FWD and i think the RS6 is AWD, but i dont know if theres a RWD model in there. Either way, the FWD models have an east/west engine layout, whislt the AWD has the engine rotated 90 degrees like a RWD layout

[motorsportnerd]

im pretty pissed the 6 MPS is being made as the sedan version, not the hatch. big mistake there IMO

but the new liberty's yeah theyre pretty good, its a bit of a bummer of how much they cost though

I would assume they decided to introduce the 6MPS as a sedan due to the inherently greater stiffness in the bodyshell of a sedan. Though maybe the hatch will show up in MPS trim in the future. Hope so - hatch does look better.

Once its introduced the 6 MPS will likely replace the Liberty GT as my favourite Q-car....

[SlickHolden]

My sister inlaw is trying to get my brother to buy her a Mazda6.

[fpv_gtho]

I would assume they decided to introduce the 6MPS as a sedan due to the inherently greater stiffness in the bodyshell of a sedan. Though maybe the hatch will show up in MPS trim in the future. Hope so - hatch does look better.

Once its introduced the 6 MPS will likely replace the Liberty GT as my favourite Q-car....

Thats another thing there, a 6 MPS Sedan would be a far better competitor than a 6 MPS Hatch to the Liberty GT....

Rigidity is becoming a big thing it seems lately, i wouldnt have thought there was that much of a difference between the 4 and 5 door, but if its a significant difference, i guess they may as well make the better car first. There'd be sales in both the sedan and hatch so i guess its something worth considering

[SlickHolden]

I was sitting in a plaza today here this sound behind me turn around and there is 2 cars driving inside a mazda3 and tribute, That was a sight let me tell you

[fpv_gtho]

probably only the 3, wouldnt want to think the tribute got a meatier note than the 3 or anything

you see a couple of 6's going around with replaced rear mufflers and crap though, i guess thats the disadvantage of a stock dual tipped exhaust on a 4 cylinder....

[motorsportnerd]

Thats another thing there, a 6 MPS Sedan would be a far better competitor than a 6 MPS Hatch to the Liberty GT....

Rigidity is becoming a big thing it seems lately, i wouldnt have thought there was that much of a difference between the 4 and 5 door, but if its a significant difference, i guess they may as well make the better car first. There'd be sales in both the sedan and hatch so i guess its something worth considering

I'm no engineer, but I believe that sedans have greater torsional stiffness around the rear bulkhead and quarter panel. I'm sure Matra would set us right...

[fpv_gtho]

yeah i can see where your going, maybe had the hatch not been made on a platform built for sedans, hatches and wagons, only hatches, it couldve been stiffer but the compromise was made.

i guess of course they dont want to do what Nissan done with the 350Z and make the boot practically useless cause of the strut brace going straight through

[Blue Supra]

Well i know that for convertibles they have to put in A LOT of extra strength put into the body, the RX7 Convertible model is just as heavy (i think a bit more actually) with all the extra steel put in the body to make it stronger.

[Luciferous]

it could be done, Audi with the A6 afterall i think offer it in FWD and i think the RS6 is AWD, but i dont know if theres a RWD model in there. Either way, the FWD models have an east/west engine layout, whislt the AWD has the engine rotated 90 degrees like a RWD layout

Audi has no RWD platforms anywhere in its line up, everything is either FWD or Quattro, but I believe theyre currently playing around with a RWD platform for the A4/A6.

I dunno bout the MPS to tell you the truth, the AWD system doesn't look like a cracker. The system is based of a FWD layout and as such change the power between wheels from 100:0 to 50:50, in that the front wheels always have more power....