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    Quote Originally Posted by NicFromLA View Post
    Then again, listening to Americans calling them 'seets' instead of 'say-ats' might be pretty painful.
    and they would be probably associated with wheel-chairs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quiggs View Post
    Dealer network.
    Parts distribution network.
    Advertising.
    Certifying cars for emissions.
    Certifying cars for crash standards.
    Training sales/technical people.
    Building corporate infrastructure.

    Yeah, it's no big deal.

    Edit: And that's not even getting into Seat cannibalizing Volkswagen sales. See: GM Corporate model.
    All the mechanicals are shared with VW that would be no problem, and furthermore they've been selling them in Europe (and Skoda too) with no cannibalising problems. But in short, yes it'd be suicidal for VW.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack_Bauer View Post
    I'd see the biggest obstacle to Seat starting up in the States is that the average American motorist has probably never even heard of Seat. They don't have any kind of cache or auto-enthusiast kudos like Alfa Romeo do. It would be crazy for VAG to try to market a new brand to the American market completely from scratch, especially when the Seat model line-up is, in general, completely unremarkable.

    That's not me having a dig at Seat, I like their cars and the marque. They build nice, well made family cars with the odd sporty variant thrown in. But Volkswagen already does pretty much exactly the same thing in the American market, and they more than have their hands full trying to compete with the likes of Toyota, Honda etc in the reasonably-priced family car market.
    The problem with Seat is that the Altea family was a huge mistake for them. They made three cars which had almost identical fronts, the Toledo is absolutely fugly and the Altea doesn't bring anything new from the Leon except a slitghly taller roof. And of course people weren't fooled. It seems though that they are beggining to put some common sense into Seat and solving things with a new saloon based on old Audi underpinnings.
    Quote Originally Posted by fisetdavid26 View Post
    Perhaps the Fórmula would be a nice Seat model to introduce to the US market, much life Alfa Romeo and their 8C... not quite in the same category though, and the Fórmula is a 7-year old concept but still...
    Well that's a mid engined roadster. The Tango would probably make more sense since it was based in the Ibiza, IIRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    All the mechanicals are shared with VW that would be no problem, and furthermore they've been selling them in Europe (and Skoda too) with no cannibalising problems. But in short, yes it'd be suicidal for VW.
    they've just released skoda here and they'd be facing all the same problems as SEAT would in the US, so it'd be interesting to see how skoda fare.
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    brilliant car, it has something of a modern day corrado.
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    Now that we've diverted pretty far from the subject of this young man's VERY attractive Spanish hot-hatch, what do you all think the chances are that Carlos Ghosen uses Nissan as a spring board to re-launch Renault in the US?

    The last thing I need is another car, but man does the idea of storming through the side-streets of LA in a Clio 197 sound like fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quiggs View Post
    Dealer network.
    Parts distribution network.
    Advertising.
    Certifying cars for emissions.
    Certifying cars for crash standards.
    Training sales/technical people.
    Building corporate infrastructure.

    Yeah, it's no big deal.

    Edit: And that's not even getting into Seat cannibalizing Volkswagen sales. See: GM Corporate model.
    But SEAT parts are exactly the same as those for Audi, Skoda and VW...
    The engines are the same as Audi, Skoda and VW...
    Dealership sharing...


    Seets, lol, it's just like 'Marserarty', 'Marzda' 'Jagwhaar' and 'Ceetrowen'
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    nice! welcome to the world of 1.8t. Hope you have a nice time owning and driving this. Id be interested to hear how you get on with fuel consumption, considering you have more go but less weight and wheels to drive.
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    You said this was the 209bhp 20vT, any thoughts about chipping it at all? Not that 209bhp is not enough, it's plenty, I mean, exploring the almost endless possibilities in tuning the 1.8T
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    How does it corner in comparision with your BMW GTR?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Waugh-terfall View Post
    You said this was the 209bhp 20vT, any thoughts about chipping it at all? Not that 209bhp is not enough, it's plenty, I mean, exploring the almost endless possibilities in tuning the 1.8T
    chipping will be a thing to think about in the near feature yes, thats why i looked at the 209bhp version, the engine itself is build better then the 225bhp version. 19mm pistonrods vs 20mm (think thats the correct word)

    don't know if i want to do more then that, id like to keep it original
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    Nice car Roy. My old neighbours have 3!!! Two like yours in red and yellow and a new one in white. I've always fancied one myself, maybe when my insurance premiums and bank manager are both agreeable
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Visser View Post
    chipping will be a thing to think about in the near feature yes, thats why i looked at the 209bhp version, the engine itself is build better then the 225bhp version. 19mm pistonrods vs 20mm (think thats the correct word)

    don't know if i want to do more then that, id like to keep it original
    Thought so, nice move. Look forward to the updates
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    Roy, I know exactly what you mean when you say you want to keep it "original", however if you do decide to change anything just remember that as long as it's tasteful and of OEM (or better) quality, you shouldn't have any problems.
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    only 2 more days!!
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    Congrats on a new car!
    That looks seriously nice!

    Give us some pics when you have lowered it properly.

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