All Elises use the same engine, i think... detuned in the S and Supercharged in the SCOriginally Posted by clutch-monkey
Elise S - 140bhp - same as this special edition
Elise 111R - 190bhp
Elise SC - 220bhp
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All Elises use the same engine, i think... detuned in the S and Supercharged in the SC
Elise S - 140bhp - same as this special edition
Elise 111R - 190bhp
Elise SC - 220bhp
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The Elise 111R terminology was used at the time of the model launch.
Now the 111R is called the Elise R. Otherwise it's the same as mentioned above
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I guess I'm just more used to american club racers, where the name means something...
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It's not the name that matters. The car is good for what it is, not for what it's called.
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If wanted to buy a small, fast car I would buy an Ariel Atom which is the best small, fast car in the world
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what happens when it rains?
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I love the ACR, but don't forget that it costs a lot more and races at a completely different level than this. Not all club racers have to be insanely fast, in fact, that's kind of the point. A cheaper alternative to full on race cars where more average drivers can compete and have fun.
Edit: ^^^ or when you actually get to higher speeds and want some decent aerodynamics?
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the mx-5 had a club racer version as well didn't it? they're not outrageously fast either.
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Think so, and the S2000, etc. Honestly if you're looking for an elise based track beast you should be looking at the 2 eleven, but that's so much more expensive and less practical. Or you have the option of various Exiges. This isn't really supposed to be that fast of a car, and I don't know why so many people are complaining about it being slow, when lotus already makes much faster track oriented versions.
Edit: not that an elise is all that slow, either, even with only 134hp.
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It's not detuned for the S. The S has the plain-jane 1.8 used in the Corolla, while the R has the VVTL-i motor which was used in the Corolla Sportivo, and higher model Celica with 190hp.
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So no VVTI in the S? just a differente head?
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Both engines are from the ZZ family. They are related but not the same engine.
[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_ZZ_engine]Toyota ZZ engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
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That's weird, Wiki says the 1ZZ-FE was discontinued in 2007, is Lotus using surplus engines for the S?
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I think they mean production in Ontario ended, but continues in Buffalo.
Either that or they'll soon upgrade it to the newer ZR engine, when ZZ supply ends.
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