....However your needs put you in the minority of SUV owners - most of them buy the car for the higher line of vision and ease of entry/egress.
That and they look sooooooo cute!
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....However your needs put you in the minority of SUV owners - most of them buy the car for the higher line of vision and ease of entry/egress.
That and they look sooooooo cute!
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drakkie's touring mode:Originally Posted by drakkie
Believe me, I have seen that on the road ! Agreed, the cars were equipped with "roof boxes" and completely filled, but it is possible
Plus we rarely havely sub 1 liter cars nowadays.. Even my own car has an incredible 997 cc
Not talking about the comfort though..
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I've driven in a westerly direction many times without needing an SUV.i dunno about americans, but we keep a 4X4 around for when we have to tow the boat, trailer, car trailer plus car, or just drive in a westerly direction.
I know someone who used to transport his bike in his car.
Great if you want a car full of dirt.
I'm not saying that there are not times when an SUV can be useful, just that more often than not people make an excuse that they "need" the vehicle to do something which millions of others manage to do without one.
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You know what? This argument has been going on and on and it's gotten silly. Yes, people may not need SUV's on a daily basis, but it certainly comes in handy for the people who do need its capabilities that normal cars don't have (ride height, rock crawling capabilities). Yes, one can get by with a normal car (wagon, small displacement motor, whatever you want) with snow tires and stuff but if you were forging 6 feet of snow, I doubt that would work. You guys can keep arguing this stuff till you're blue in the face but people's opinions are so entrenched that no matter what no one will change. Some people just really like SUV's and some people just don't. Can't we just leave it at that?
Now, for my opinion.
Yes I do believe SUV's are unnecessary. 95% of people don't use them for the way they are supposed to be used. They are highly unsafe (rollovers and whatnot) but when you really do use it for the way it's supposed to be used, then it really excels. I won't be needing an SUV however for my purposes, so a wagon (Legacy or Impreza) is all I need. And for those who do need an SUV, so be it.
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Except if you have a BMW X3, or a Lexus RX 300, or many others...
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That explains their popularity in city centres then.
I don't have a problem with people liking SUVs and buying them, I just think people are complete idiots for fabricating these pathetic cardboard excuses as "justification" to no one in particular.
"Oh, I need my huge SUV because this one time I had to carry, like, 2 people and an apple 6 foot across a gravel driveway..."
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I never said that everyone buys SUVs for their real uses. I'm sure plenty of people buy it even if they don't need their capabilities. I'm just saying that when you really need them for their real uses they really do excel. Plenty of people buy them just to show off. And so what if you don't like them because of that? They have the money to do so and they can do whatever they want as long as they don't bother me. Sure, they're not the best of choices for mundane, everyday driving and they might not be the most efficient of machines, but is that up to you to decide?
Oh, and you should read the section that I labeled "My Opinion" as well.
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That's more like a crossover, they don't count.
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How are either cross-overs?That's more like a crossover, they don't count.
The RX300 is huge. A crossover is something more like a VW Cross Polo, Audi Allroad etc.
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The RX300 is based on a Camry chassis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus_RX300
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the rx300 is hardly the most dedicated off-road choice, some would say the X5 is better but it has its air intake in the same place as the 5-series - low down in the chin spoiler, no use for wading. Should we see it as an advantage that 95% of SUVs bought that are not going to be used off road are evolving into purely road going (hence more efficient there), The xtrail and many others have switchable 2wd and 4wd to reduce friction when wd is not needed, this feature can only benefit the matter if no-one can convince these buyers that SUV's are wrong.
I personally dont advocate the silly self-cenred reasons people buy them though. If youve seen JC in family car 2000 youll know of the good bit of journalism he does to demonstrate that the so called benefits are all superficial.
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Roof-rack?Bah your just jealous because SUVs don't fit on ur tiny roads
Also try fitting 5 people, a dog, and camping supplies in freaking 206 or whatever you guys drive over there.
Until then us north americans will continue to buy large cars, ruin the environment and laugh at your sub 1 litre engines.
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if you drove any meaningful distance west you'd probably be in the atlantic
i agree with this - there is nothing as pointless as an X3 or a cayenne wallowing about in city traffic. Once i start using the mini i'll probably be crushed against a post box because some SUV wielded by a lipstick brandishing female couldn't see me.
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