View Poll Results: Choose one nation to be the sole car producer for the rest of the universe.

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  • US

    4 8.89%
  • UK

    2 4.44%
  • Germany

    16 35.56%
  • Italy

    11 24.44%
  • France

    0 0%
  • Japan

    7 15.56%
  • China

    2 4.44%
  • India

    0 0%
  • Russia

    1 2.22%
  • Sweden

    0 0%
  • South Korea

    0 0%
  • Australia

    1 2.22%
  • Canada

    0 0%
  • Other (please specify; I also apologize in advance if I've forgotten your country)

    1 2.22%
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Thread: [POLL] So there's a new world order...

  1. #31
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    china is the largest vehicle producer of the world, in 2009 china manufactured 13,790,994 units of various types of cars

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonOfTheDead View Post
    You're confusing stereotypes with "known facts".
    Wouldn't that describe of most 16 year olds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by csl177 View Post
    Wouldn't that describe of most 16 year olds?
    Damnit.
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    Italy. All their cars vary from small, affordable city cars to 7-figure priced hypercars. Plus all their stuff has some flair that makes it special from other cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I NEED NAWZZZ View Post
    Italy. All their cars vary from small, affordable city cars to 7-figure priced hypercars. Plus all their stuff has some flair that makes it special from other cars.
    I've just found out what Italy lacks: upscale sedans and wagons. I mean Lancia was supposed to do that job, but all they build are small, expensive cars and a big van (sorry, idk if the Phedra is still on sale...). Alfa could easily do it, but I've heard that Fiat canceled the development for the big Alfa. Maserati has the QP, but it's too expensive.

    To sum up: Italy can't compete in the upper middle class segment and the luxury segment right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commodore GS/E View Post
    I've just found out what Italy lacks: upscale sedans and wagons. I mean Lancia was supposed to do that job, but all they build are small, expensive cars and a big van (sorry, idk if the Phedra is still on sale...). Alfa could easily do it, but I've heard that Fiat canceled the development for the big Alfa. Maserati has the QP, but it's too expensive.

    To sum up: Italy can't compete in the upper middle class segment and the luxury segment right now.
    The Fiat Croma is a car which you can only buy in wagon style. Plus, I don't know if this counts, but Fiat's relationship with Chrysler could mean that some of their upscale saloons are transformed. Remember, Chrysler plan to sell the Lancia Delta as a Chrysler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commodore GS/E View Post
    I've just found out what Italy lacks: upscale sedans and wagons. I mean Lancia was supposed to do that job, but all they build are small, expensive cars and a big van (sorry, idk if the Phedra is still on sale...). Alfa could easily do it, but I've heard that Fiat canceled the development for the big Alfa. Maserati has the QP, but it's too expensive.

    To sum up: Italy can't compete in the upper middle class segment and the luxury segment right now.
    That is true, they have cheap and cheerful cars and expensive exotics, but pretty much nothing in between.

    Maybe Chrysler will give them the required volume to attack the 30 to 70 grand market.
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    I guess the Alfa 159 is about it, now that the 166 is ended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pimento View Post
    I guess the Alfa 159 is about it, now that the 166 is ended.
    And it isn't a very big player...
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    The Alfa 159 starts from 25k € now, quite less than before. So freaking tempting.

    The new Thema will probably start in the high-40 if not 50k € range.

    Then you'll get the smaller Maserati and the new Alfa flagship with it. It took them 4 years to realize you can't built a 50k € Alfa and an over 100k Maserati on the same base, unless you want to play Bentley, but they eventually figured it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonOfTheDead View Post
    The Alfa 159 starts from 25k € now, quite less than before. So freaking tempting.
    And still, nobody wants one...
    Quote Originally Posted by LeonOfTheDead View Post
    The new Thema will probably start in the high-40 if not 50k € range.
    50 grand for a car that retails for 30 grand here? And now it has more power.

    Madness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    And still, nobody wants one...

    50 grand for a car that retails for 30 grand here? And now it has more power.

    Madness.
    Lancias tactic:
    1. build a car and offer it for high prices
    2. (nobody wants one)
    3. make 1k special editions that are much more expensive than the basic car
    4. some people buy some (still not very sucessful)
    5. sell rebadged Chryslers with a massive pricetag
    6. Lancia: "now that will earn us some profit"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    And still, nobody wants one...

    50 grand for a car that retails for 30 grand here? And now it has more power.

    Madness.
    The Thema has a 30.000 € sticker in Spain?!

    There has been quite a few more 159s on the road since the new prices and "full-optional" packages were released.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonOfTheDead View Post
    There has been quite a few more 159s on the road since the new prices and "full-optional" packages were released.
    Guess that's the "home market" effect, because I don't see many 159's here.

    The Giulietta is selling pretty well, tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonOfTheDead View Post
    The Thema has a 30.000 € sticker in Spain?!

    There has been quite a few more 159s on the road since the new prices and "full-optional" packages were released.
    The 300C with the 220bhp diesel engine used to retail for 32grand, but it's now up to 43. I guess the promotion is over.
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