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    what makes a car a 4 doors car or 5 door

    what is the main deference between a 4 door car and a 5 door car

    what is there fore the criteria
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    A 4-door car will have a sedan/saloon bodyshape, like this:



    It has another 'box' in the design- so it becomes a '3-box design', rather than the 2 used on a 5-door. It basically means it has a boot/trunk.

    This is a 5-door:



    It has a hatchback, rather than an extra 'box' for the boot/trunk. Estate cars (or station wagons, whatever) also count as 5-door cars, because the hatch is effectively another door...



    And this is your extra 'door' open...


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    I've been asked this question a lot and thanks to IWAARS6 we now have a near-perfect explanation. the only thing I'd add is this, just for clarity:

    4-door: Saloon
    5-door: Hatchback

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    3-door: hatchback
    2-door: silly
    1-door:
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    2-door: Silly?? I don't know about you, but I like these cars
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    1-door ....
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    Not quite...

    Don't want to confuse things, but the explanation is quite different:a 5 door differs because the boot/trunk opens from the top of the back glass, while in a 4 door it opens from the bottom of that same glass. There are at least 2 cars that are 5 doors and have a saloon body shape: The 1st Seat Toledo and the 1st Skoda Octavia. So, a saloon is commonly a 4 door, but there are exceptions.
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    easy, in a 5 door car you can enter the passenger compartment thruu the boot, the 4 door car has the boot cut off with chassis metal from the passenger compartment and you cannot access the passengers thruu there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo_Ant View Post
    Don't want to confuse things, but the explanation is quite different:a 5 door differs because the boot/trunk opens from the top of the back glass, while in a 4 door it opens from the bottom of that same glass. There are at least 2 cars that are 5 doors and have a saloon body shape: The 1st Seat Toledo and the 1st Skoda Octavia. So, a saloon is commonly a 4 door, but there are exceptions.
    Actually, at least in the UK, both of the cars you mention are referred to as hatchbacks, not saloons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clivey View Post
    Actually, at least in the UK, both of the cars you mention are referred to as hatchbacks, not saloons.
    Shucks, beat me to it

    The Octavia is based on the Golf; therefore will always be a 5-door hatchback as long as it based on the Golf. It still looks like a hatchback- similar to the Saab 9000 that I posted.

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    Exactly: hatchbacks although they have an apparent trunk.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo_Ant View Post
    Exactly: hatchbacks although they have an apparent trunk.0
    Not excessively; there are limitations posed as to how big a hatch can actually be before you put undue amounts of stress upon the struts that hold it up. If you look at any regular saloon, they don't have really stubby trunks like the Octavia or Toledo you posted. The only one I can really think of that has a tiny boot is the SEAT Cordoba.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruim20 View Post
    easy, in a 5 door car you can enter the passenger compartment thruu the boot, the 4 door car has the boot cut off with chassis metal from the passenger compartment and you cannot access the passengers thruu there.
    Ford Orion - 4 door, boot, but fold down seats meant you could access through it and no chassis metal.
    It's never a perfect definition and is often used by marketing to meet the needs of market segmentation they desire
    For 99% of the time if it "looks" like you describe then I agree !!
    I always though it was simpler in that if the glass AND part of the rear panel lifted as one ten it was "hatchbck" and counted as a door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine View Post
    Ford Orion - 4 door, boot, but fold down seats meant you could access through it and no chassis metal.
    It's never a perfect definition and is often used by marketing to meet the needs of market segmentation they desire
    For 99% of the time if it "looks" like you describe then I agree !!
    I always though it was simpler in that if the glass AND part of the rear panel lifted as one ten it was "hatchbck" and counted as a door.
    Ah, the Ford Orion... such a misguided car... why did Ford even bother?

    Same goes for the BMW 318Ci- odd that, as it's based on the 4-door, it's got fold-down seats.

    And as for marketing... Mercedes CompletelyLimpSegment-occupier, anyone?

    And I agree with your definition, Peter... makes more sense... I did my best!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IWantAnAudiRS6 View Post
    Ah, the Ford Orion... such a misguided car... why did Ford even bother?
    Depends.
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