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Old 12-02-2009, 07:39 AM
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Old 12-15-2009, 11:18 AM
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I'm familiar with the Parkes photos, but what's interesting here is the right or left drivers position and the Scarfiotti #144 targa hoop. Running changes to the 250P or specific setups for driver and/or track?
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I wouldn't be surprised if some of these are the 3.3 275p... being it's hard to distinguish between this particular cars progressions....then there's the 4.0 330p. Engine displacement changes with basically the same body showing minor changes along the way.
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Old 12-16-2009, 05:06 AM
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I'm familiar with the Parkes photos, but what's interesting here is the right or left drivers position and the Scarfiotti #144 targa hoop. Running changes to the 250P or specific setups for driver and/or track?
it is even more interesting that the photo caption indicates that both shots of the 110 car are taken at the same occasion, 1000 km Ring, 1964. Obviously there were two cars running. Did one get damaged during practice?
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I wouldn't be surprised if some of these are the 3.3 275p... being it's hard to distinguish between this particular cars progressions....then there's the 4.0 330p. Engine displacement changes with basically the same body showing minor changes along the way.
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it is even more interesting that the photo caption indicates that both shots of the 110 car are taken at the same occasion, 1000 km Ring, 1964. Obviously there were two cars running. Did one get damaged during practice?
Only car #114 the winner of the 1964 1000km of Nurburgring is actually a 275P (s/n 0820).

All the others show s/n 0810 and s/n 0812, which are 250 Ps, in the 1963 1000km of Nurburgring and the 1963 Targa Florio.
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I should have said 1000 km 1963...still two different cars, with the same number at the same occasion. Where is the Targa Florio shot?
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I should have said 1000 km 1963...still two different cars, with the same number at the same occasion. Where is the Targa Florio shot?
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OK, so you did remove shots from #114? This is getting a bit confusing.
according to this link 110 and 111 are RHD. For 114 (also a 250P but a non-starter) nothing is indicated
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OK, so you did remove shots from #114? This is getting a bit confusing.
according to this link 110 and 111 are RHD. For 114 (also a 250P but a non-starter) nothing is indicated
All.Ferraris - Ferraris at 1000km Nuerburgring 1963
further investigation indicates that also 814 (like all P-Cars) was RHD, (and went on to win LeMans in 1963).

So which car is the LHD with #110???
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OK, so you did remove shots from #114? This is getting a bit confusing.
according to this link 110 and 111 are RHD. For 114 (also a 250P but a non-starter) nothing is indicated
All.Ferraris - Ferraris at 1000km Nuerburgring 1963
I removed #144 which was a 275 P. I haven't posted pictures of #114.

EDIT My info says

#110 ---> s/n 0812
#111 ---> s/n 0810
#114 ---> s/n 0814

http://www.teamdan.com/archive/wsc/1963/63nurb.html
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I removed #144 which was a 275 P. I haven't posted pictures of #114.
I did not say you removed one of 114, I just mentioned the car as it could be one of two cars with #110. Unfortunately the 114 is also RHD, so we are left with the question what is the LHD 110. I can't really imagine that they would do such a swap in a weekend. Also the lettering of the numbers is not the same. (Probably this has already long ago been sorted out by the multitude of Ferrari historians in this world, but I don't know the answer)
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I did not say you removed one of 114, I just mentioned the car as it could be one of two cars with #110. Unfortunately the 114 is also RHD, so we are left with the question what is the LHD 110. I can't really imagine that they would do such a swap in a weekend. Also the lettering of the numbers is not the same. (Probably this has already long ago been sorted out by the multitude of Ferrari historians in this world, but I don't know the answer)
I'm lost too...

If it's of any use, #114 had an accident in Practice, so it probably couldn't be the reserve #110.
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I'm lost too...

If it's of any use, #114 had an accident in Practice, so it probably couldn't be the reserve #110.
Barchetta.cc says that it did not finish (lost a wheel). Also funny because the "pirro" link comes straight from Barchetta. And it is RHD.....
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