1000bhp Tvr!!!!!

[MyBugatti]

hiya. ive been browsing these forums for ages but never had anything interesting to say until now

you TVR lovas r gonna luv this
I found someone building a 1000rwhp tvr v8 cerbera

hes completely rebuilt the car from the ground up and the engine is now 6 litres with a massive blower!

I came across him over at pistonheads, calls himself sxs.
his project websites at http://www.projectphoenix.xt7.net

from what i gather he's building her to throw all roadlegal? rockets into the bin with 0-100-200-250+ speeds??????????????????????? also sounds like it will be entering some big official speed tests similar to the mcleran

this is one ride I cant wait to see
apparently his car will be at an event up north www.cream2005.info

I wander how many road legal all british 1000rwhp+ cars are out there?

Jon

[Mustang]

well done, you want a medel ?

sorry nice post, found this a while ago when seraching a TVR site, i am a HUGE!!! TVR fan

here is a pic of what it might look like

A Cerbera event seems to have been a long time coming. Many ideas and discussions have taken place along with a few small 'Weathermen' gatherings, but to our knowledge, no outright large Cerbera Event has ever taken place, so perhaps the 10th anniversary of the commencement of production, seem very apt to stage what has become known as C.R.E.A.M 2005.



Having had many emails and conducted owner’s survey polls, we hope the package that has been put together will appeal to all Cerbera owners as it offers you the opportunity to meet and talk with fellow owners from all over the UK (perhaps further a field?!), discuss potential modifications with the experts, see some exceptional variants of the Cerbera model and as if that wasn't enough, we have a full track day ready for you where you can test the limits of your Cerbera in a safe environment in an event run by a fully approved ATDO organiser.



We also have something extra for the family as well, who should they grow tired of the static displays and track day action, can gain admission to the Yorkshire Air Museum which is the home to over 40 aircraft and is located on the same site.



We hope to be able to make further major announcements about the event shortly, but book early to make this an event to be remembered!

EVENT FEATURES:



· Special Guest Cars And Owners Including The 1000bhp Phoenix Cerbera



· A Full Track Day Option Run By An Approved ATDO Organiser



· A High Speed Runway Session For All Cerberas Attending



· A Charity Raffle Including The Ultimate Cerbera Prize!



· Regional Convoys To The Event Will Be Arranged



· Cerbera Specialists & Trade Stands On Hand



· Event Merchandise Will Be On Sale



· A DVD Of The Event Will Be Filmed



· Yorkshire Air Museum Tickets



· On Site Catering & Facilities

[Matra et Alpine]

Not so sure of this.

I will get great headlines, but I wouldn't want to try to control it.

The standard Cerbera can bite coming out of corners.
More power and little scope for major suspension changes makes me think it will NOT be able to come on throttle till well clear of the apex.

I reckon it'll be good for bragging rights for sure

[Coventrysucks]

I think those lads know what they are doing though.

[Matra et Alpine]

I think those lads know what they are doing though.

Remember, even Peter Wheeler said TVR coudnt' produce some cars they had developed because they were just too powerful. I'll trust PW

[MyBugatti]

it said something about extensive chassis work on the site
i would hav thought that meant suspension too
judging by the scope and cost of this kind of project i doubt its just another one of those braggers cars, would hav been cheaper doing a skyline up
i sent him an email asking him for more info and piccies

[MyBugatti]

Remember, even Peter Wheeler said TVR coudnt' produce some cars they had developed because they were just too powerful. I'll trust PW

isnt he the one who quit on tvr and soldout to that russian boy? they werent too powerful, i read somewhere it was all a big PR stunt and the company didnt have the resources to play in the big league with their reliability record?
he was also the one who said his speed 12 hit 900bhp plus on the dyno before breaking it
i dont remember seeing the car being tested independantly
from reading the pistonheads forums its well known tvr bhp figures are overly over estimated

so me reckons its bad choice to trust ex-tvr boss wheeler

[Matra et Alpine]

it said something about extensive chassis work on the site
i would hav thought that meant suspension too
judging by the scope and cost of this kind of project i doubt its just another one of those braggers cars, would hav been cheaper doing a skyline up
i sent him an email asking him for more info and piccies

thasnk for the extra ino MB, looking forward to seeing the reply.
Especially re bodywork as the current shape will succeed in flying

[Coventrysucks]

isnt he the one who quit on tvr and soldout to that russian boy? they werent too powerful, i read somewhere it was all a big PR stunt and the company didnt have the resources to play in the big league with their reliability record?
he was also the one who said his speed 12 hit 900bhp plus on the dyno before breaking it
i dont remember seeing the car being tested independantly
from reading the pistonheads forums its well known tvr bhp figures are overly over estimated

so me reckons its bad choice to trust ex-tvr boss wheeler

Lies and slander - heathen!

"Quit" TVR?

I think you'll find that he retired, having spent over 20 years as owner of the company, turning them into the raucous brand they are today.

Selling the company to a person with solid financial backing, and a passion for the brand means that, for now at least, TVR are becoming even stronger, and are beginning to put down their deamons - namely their reputation for poor quality. A 3 year warranty is something I don't think you'd have seen Wheeler introduce.

As for the Speed 12's output - the car has been driven independantly by several race drivers, and the only road-going example is now owned by someone independant of the company.

I have seen nothing that indicates the car is not as powerful as they claim.
Read the independant review in Evo - not much complaining about it feeling like there is much less than 800bhp is there?

[Jack_Bauer]

Lies and slander - heathen!

As for the Speed 12's output - the car has been driven independantly by several race drivers, and the only road-going example is now owned by someone independant of the company.

I have seen nothing that indicates the car is not as powerful as they claim.
Read the independant review in Evo - not much complaining about it feeling like there is much less than 800bhp is there?

I'm not sure he was referring to the output of the Speed 12 specifically (I for one don't doubt the huge power it produces!), but to TVRs in general. I have heard that TVR are often a little bit 'optimistic' in their quoted power figures. The test cars released to the press are obviously maintained to the highest standard but I've heard of people experiencing a lot of difference in engine performance from one customer car to the next. Engine performance figures are sometimes amusingly referred to in Bbhp, Blackpool brake horsepower, as it is often slightly exaggerated from the reality!

I think TVR are also guilty of being a little misleading with their weight figures. They went for a period where all their cars were quoted as weighing 1100kg. Seemed a little unlikely that a shorter wheelbase, 3.6 litre Tamora would be exactly the same weight as a longer wheelbased 4.5 litre Cerbera (with rear seats and all!). I remember reading a magazine review of a Cerbera 4.5 (can't remember exactly which mag or issue) where they put it on a weigh bridge and it tipped the scales at well over 1200kg!

[Matra et Alpine]

I remember reading a magazine review of a Cerbera 4.5 (can't remember exactly which mag or issue) where they put it on a weigh bridge and it tipped the scales at well over 1200kg!

Some mags are very specific and weight the cars with half a tank of fuel .
It's quite possibel it was dry weight versus full up ?
"dry weight" is open to abuse to with soem weights clearly with vehicles empty of collant, oil and fuel Not sure if TVR have played this game.

[Jack_Bauer]

Some mags are very specific and weight the cars with half a tank of fuel .
It's quite possibel it was dry weight versus full up ?
"dry weight" is open to abuse to with soem weights clearly with vehicles empty of collant, oil and fuel Not sure if TVR have played this game.

Yeah I know there can be discrepancies between dry weights/kerb weights etc, but I refuse to believe there can be a difference of well over 100kg between the manufacturers stated weight and the press cars 'actual' weight. Fuel ain't that heavy!

I wouldn't expect any car to be exactly as the brochure states, but it just seemed a little fishy to me that ALL the different models in their range were EXACTLY the same weight!

[aNOBLEman]

That Cerbera would be amazing to drive, though probably hard to control, unless some major suspension work is done.

[Matra et Alpine]

Yeah I know there can be discrepancies between dry weights/kerb weights etc, but I refuse to believe there can be a difference of well over 100kg between the manufacturers stated weight and the press cars 'actual' weight. Fuel ain't that heavy!

It's only 100litres of fuel
Also, watch out that SOME mags "add" the weight of an average driver to the weight they publish too ( cant' remember which one ). To me that was eminently sensible as it is a closer match to a driven car than the other extreme of all driy weights

I wouldn't expect any car to be exactly as the brochure states, but it just seemed a little fishy to me that ALL the different models in their range were EXACTLY the same weight!

Wasnt' aware that had ever been published.
Was this in the TVR brochure or could it be an error at web sites ?

[Coventrysucks]

I have heard that TVR are often a little bit 'optimistic' in their quoted power figures.

That was with the Rover V8s.