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    Mazda Roadpacer (Holden HQ with a rotary)

    Mazda ROADPACER 1975 for sale - TradeMe.co.nz - New Zealand

    came across one of these today on trade me and thought some of the Aussie members might be interested. wikipedia says 840 ever sold and many have been crushed.

    Mazda Roadpacer AP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spastik_Roach View Post
    wikipedia says 840 ever sold and many have been crushed.
    understandable interesting find though.
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    Fuel consumption is apparently around 10mpg....yikes

    Heres another NZ based one http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/...er-1976-a.html

    and a rather damning review of one http://mrec.rotary.net.nz/articles/roadpacer.htm
    Last edited by Spastik_Roach; 04-24-2009 at 08:13 PM.

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    Reputedly these can be worth a pretty penny to astute collectors, historically the only rotary powered 'GM car' to reach production

    Thanks for the link Spaz
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    If I had tons of money laying around, I'd totally love to get one of those for racing purposes. That and that rotary bus over there on the side. Get me some Communist Russia cars and have me a grand ole time. Maybe a midget on a greyhound too.
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    Quite WHY you would be collecting something like this is beyond me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBrake4Rainbows View Post
    Quite WHY you would be collecting something like this is beyond me.
    Collection for collection's sake?

    I think Mazda should have gone nuts and made a bespoke engine for this.
    Even greater fuel econ. woes, but possibly a bit more grunt.
    Why did they ever do this? Buzzy small capacity engines don't really do well when put into dignified luxo-barges. I would think even your average marketing man could figure that out.
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    Happy Anzac day to the Aussie (and few other kiwi members) btw. lest we forget.

    13B wasn't a good engine to be using for the weight of this car. Nowhere near enough torque. The target market for this car (insanely rich and government ministers) would be able to stand less than favourable fuel consumption but that AND poor performance? The only way to extract anywhere near decent performance was to rev it crazily, straining the 3 speed slushbox and also creating a bit of a noise problem which would go against the luxury pretensions of the car.

    Mazda used a 13b again in a large luxury sedan, in the mark 3, 4 and 5 929's/Luce's. However these had less weight to cart around and in the mark 5's case a turbo.

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    ^ and the 20B cosmos
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    thats a large luxury coupe idiot



    do want

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    sif need 4 doors
    Andreas Preuninger, Manager of Porsche High Performance Cars: "Grandmas can use paddles. They aren't challenging."

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    The point was probably smoothness.
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    I saw a Toadpacer in Japan, it was on display in a dealership. Looked mint and ...purple.

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    The point was probably smoothness.
    No such thing. As I recall, In exchange for sharing rotary tech, GM handed over a bunch of HQ bodies but because of Japan engine capacity tax they decided to ditch the straight sixes and mate a high revving rotary to a 3spd auto gearbox that hated to be spun. Joke was that the thing was price at about twice what a new Cosmo cost.
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