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    Old timer's rally-raid Hamburg-Shanghai in Russia

    Not so long ago I was in Siberia
    I saw about 70 classic cars
    The distance of the Rally is 10000 km to one way.
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    add photos.
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    Sorry...
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    nice pics! the last one is a Willys, isn'it?
    "I don't take any photo, just collect in all the web and share"

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    Loving the 2CV van

    And that SLC is stunning. Red is an odd colour choice, though...

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    Porsche and Jaguar
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    Mersedes Benz, Volvo and Mustang
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    thanks, this is such a more worthy event than say the gumball rallye.....travelling from 5star to 5star hotel, with cars that would break down ultimately after having crossed the Ural mountains

    Did you see a red BMW-02 series with a Dutch license plate?
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    Don't saw BMW
    Isaw this raid after Ural mountains, before Novosibirsk city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hondamotor
    Don't saw BMW
    Isaw this raid after Ural mountains, before Novosibirsk city.
    thanks anyway...
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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4 View Post
    thanks, this is such a more worthy event than say the gumball rallye.....travelling from 5star to 5star hotel, with cars that would break down ultimately after having crossed the Ural mountains

    Did you see a red BMW-02 series with a Dutch license plate?
    There was no BMW-car in that rallye, only a BMW bike....)
    (plus a Harley Davidson....both drivers close to age 70 btw, quite remarkable)

    Though there were two Dutch teams present, 1x Ford Mustang, 1x Volvo C306....)

    (and in 2007, Duesseldorf-Shanghai, there was a BMW 2002 present, IIRC, also organized by MediaDirekt/Hamburg & ChinaTours/Hamburg)
    (in 2008, a much smaller convoy of 3 vehicles travelled to Hongkong along the Silk Route, in 2009 a Chinese convoy made the reverse tour, and in 2010 a dozen oldtimers/youngtimers again did the Silk Route, ending in Shanghai again....for next year, a China-only oldtimer-rally is planned, from Shanghai to Beijing in 3-4 weeks, with a wide loop to the west)

    See Self Drive Tours | Abenteuer auf 4 Rädern for more details on past/present/future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ribatejo69 View Post
    nice pics! the last one is a Willys, isn'it?
    Indeed it is.
    Owner initially wanted to drive with a VW Kuebel or something, but discovered it was too rare & expensive for such a tour....cq too much historic sacrilege, wearing it down that way.
    Since his first name was Willie, and the vehicle itself no less historical appropriate for such an epic tour, the alternative choice was not too difficult....)
    (the day we left Moscow, he woke up very early, and was ahead of us by at least an hour or so....asked why, the next evening, he said he wanted to be first to cross the demarcation line, where neither Napoleon nor Hitler had succeeded....)))

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    Quote Originally Posted by IWantAnAudiRS6 View Post
    Loving the 2CV van

    And that SLC is stunning. Red is an odd colour choice, though...
    Actually, it was the choice of his wife, since it was actually her car that he and his brother-in-law picked for the tour....)

    There was also an MB W107 SL, and an MB Adenauer.
    Latter was running on BF Goodrich AT's, possibly the first in history....)

    Miserable things though, these V8's....nearly all MB's had thermal problems one way or the other (though none of them were smart enough to mount a tropical cooler, either original or aftermarket).
    (civil Volvo C3-series have a nearly 3 times larger cooler than military, and I had zero problems, despite the measly 125hp B30 pushing 5.5 ton....)
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    Quote Originally Posted by hondamotor View Post
    Mersedes Benz, Volvo and Mustang
    Volvo guys initially pondered about entering with a (BMW?)Gogglemobile/Henkel, one of these pesky 3-wheel bubble-things, but quickly abandoned that thought, for lack of ventilation{*} & luggage-room....)

    MB Pagode was driven by a women crew, mother and daughter....)
    (there was another women crew, VW-Beetle)

    {*} cq heat-collaps in tropical China; all cabrio's closed their tops, and both bike drivers had to stop frequently below viaducts, to cool down in the soaring heat (+40C & 100% humidity....the dry Gobi was very comfortable in comparison)

    Willem (probably the first Volvo C3-series in history that ran so many kilometers, day after day, with the safari-windscreens open....) Jan

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