Push for diesel

[Blue Supra]

its not completely gutless. but that "sports shift" is a crock of crap.

its only useful for going downhill.

[SlickHolden]

Yeah that's true good for towing also.
It's nuts the shift press the button for sport faster shifts longer holds etc, Then stick it in fully man mode for the most fun. But after 4 min you forget and hate it

[Blue Supra]

yeh ive "redlined" (even though you cant in a falcon coz there isnt a redline ) it few times after putting it in then wondered why it wasnt changing

[fpv_gtho]

nota, WHERE was the Monaro MOST successful ?
The UK DRAGGED the numbers out of them according to teh Vauxhall guy

I believe that honour belongs to the Middle East, as outside the domestic region, they were the first to get exports, and probably happened very soon after the 2001 sale date.

[nota]

the gas falcon i drive for work uses 15-18L per 100k

a normal falcon (exact same model/year) that my workmate drives gets 11-13L to 100k

using an additional say 5L per 100k of gas is $3. over a 70 odd litre gas tank over a 70L fuel tank. $3 per 5L of gas and the gas car gets maximum 400k from a tank so thats $12 a tank lost in economy. now that (to me) when you have to fill up 30-40% more frequently is not worth it. Given if it does go up to 70c its gets even worse.

No excise till 2011 is news to me. last i heard was 2008. mustve been pushed back.

Sorry but I cannot see why (or how) using LPG is "$12 a tank lost in economy"

Even using the consumption figures you provided ..
13L/100 x $1.24 p/L = $64 of petrol to travel 400km
18L/100 x $0.60 p/L = $43 of LPG for 400km - an almost 30% saving on fuel

I have a typical test (Wheels) in front of me for petrol vs LPG acceleration:

Falcon
0-80km LPG is 0.1 slower
0-400m LPG is 0.1 slower
Economy L/100km
10.6<petrol vs 12.6 <LPG

Holden
0-80km LPG is equal
0-400m LPG is 0.1 slower
Economy
10.2<petrol vs 12.0 <LPG

[Blue Supra]

12 kays my arse! That thing doesnt get better then 15 and the falcon site confirms it! http://www.ford.com.au/landing/egas/...nformation.asp

A petrol falcon per tank = $81.60 at 1.20 a litre
a gas falcon (wagon, thats what we use) costs $71.40

A petrol falcon does 550 kays to a tank = $14.86 per 100klm
the wagon does 400(ish) to a tank =$17.85 per 100klm

petrol wins.

[nota]

Not according to your stated LPG figures of 18 litres per 100km, vs 13 litre per 100km for petrol

18 litres of LPG per 100km = 72 litres for 400km. 72 litres @ $0.60c per litre = $43 to travel 400km, agreed?

Yet you now claim it costs $71 to travel approx 400km which is absurd because $71 @ $0.60c per litre = 118 litres of LPG consumed per 400km

That equates not to your previous claim of 18L/100km but a miserable 29L/100km or 9.7 mpg which I have to say seems about as realistic as your other LPG 'facts'

So your claimed fuel consumption has almost doubled within two posts! Which fact are we to believe? There's an unmistakably large discrepancy between those two claims. Is the correct figure 29L/100 or 18L/100?? Are you making this up as you go along?

[fpv_gtho]

Ford have this little toy to play around with on their site: http://ford.com.au/landing/egas/egascalculator.asp

Havent looked at it personally yet though, but might be worth a look. Biggest difference to whats being discussed here seems to be the comparison of km's covered on both fuels as opposed to mileage from a full tank

EDIT: ok now i have. Even though it says "km per year", stick in 400km and you get LPG costing about half as much as petrol. The trend continues over 550km. Go for a proper yearly figure, say 20000km's at 400km a week, and your saving $1200 a year for a $1400 option.

[McReis]

like the amrican lady who rented a Citroen Xsara(?) and though it had an autobox and did everything in 1st gear....

Personally I don't buy that story. If it was so, how did she managed the clutch?

[henk4]

Personally I don't buy that story. If it was so, how did she managed the clutch?

they push started her.....

[SlickHolden]

12 kays my arse! That thing doesnt get better then 15 and the falcon site confirms it! http://www.ford.com.au/landing/egas/...nformation.asp

A petrol falcon per tank = $81.60 at 1.20 a litre
a gas falcon (wagon, thats what we use) costs $71.40

A petrol falcon does 550 kays to a tank = $14.86 per 100klm
the wagon does 400(ish) to a tank =$17.85 per 100klm

petrol wins.

Dam how big is my tank, I just filled the bugger up cost me $82. $1.20 p/l.
They say a VP's tank is 63 litres Bullshit

[fpv_gtho]

Quick calculation puts it around 68L. Funny, considering thats what the Falcon has

[SlickHolden]

I once got a best of 69 litres to but average i get 67-68.
And when i was getting the muffler stuck on the rear i seen the tank had dents under it and they weren't small.

[nota]

12 kays my arse! That thing doesnt get better then 15 and the falcon site confirms it! http://www.ford.com.au/landing/egas/...nformation.asp

A petrol falcon per tank = $81.60 at 1.20 a litre
a gas falcon (wagon, thats what we use) costs $71.40

A petrol falcon does 550 kays to a tank = $14.86 per 100klm
the wagon does 400(ish) to a tank =$17.85 per 100klm

petrol wins.

Hey Blue_Supra

I've been patiently waiting around four days now for you to give me the courtesy of responding to the questions I put to you in my post #35 re fuel costings for the LPG Falcon wagon you claim to drive for work

Among the other already disproven crap you have written in this thread about LPG costs, in my post #37 I quite clearly exposed your post #36 (your above quote) as nothing more than a fabricated lie

In #37 I have shown why there is no way that an LPG Falcon will consume $17.85 of LPG to travel a mere 100km - despite you proclaiming in #36 that it does

Despite your pretences it's obvious that you have no idea about factual LPG running costs - especially for BA Fords. You have merely supplied more bodgy 'invented' figures in a (failed) attempt to keep up your disappearing credibility

I have no idea why you've chosen to be a liar, both to me and to others who've read your deceptions. I don't take any pleasure in writing this, but I really do hate being lied to - and then ignored. I think an explanation is called for - don't you agree?

Until you do so your credibility with me is a big fat zero

Btw being a 'work' car your Falcon is required to have a logbook. All fuel & distances must be entered into that logbook - so you cannot pretend to be unfamiliar with the real fuel/distance figures. So what's the go here eh 'mate' ??

[Rockefella]

Hey Blue_Supra

I've been patiently waiting around four days now for you to give me the courtesy of responding to the questions I put to you in my post #35 re fuel costings for the LPG Falcon wagon you claim to drive for work

Among the other already disproven crap you have written in this thread about LPG costs, in my post #37 I quite clearly exposed your post #36 (your above quote) as nothing more than a fabricated lie

In #37 I have shown why there is no way that an LPG Falcon will consume $17.85 of LPG to travel a mere 100km - despite you proclaiming in #36 that it does

Despite your pretences it's obvious that you have no idea about factual LPG running costs - especially for BA Fords. You have merely supplied more bodgy 'invented' figures in a (failed) attempt to keep up your disappearing credibility

I have no idea why you've chosen to be a liar, both to me and to others who've read your deceptions. I don't take any pleasure in writing this, but I really do hate being lied to - and then ignored. I think an explanation is called for - don't you agree?

Until you do so your credibility with me is a big fat zero

Btw being a 'work' car your Falcon is required to have a logbook. All fuel & distances must be entered into that logbook - so you cannot pretend to be unfamiliar with the real fuel/distance figures. So what's the go here eh 'mate' ??

Calm down now.