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    2012 Hungarian Grand Prix (July 27 - 29)

    The final race before the Summer brake:

    Practice 1
    Pos Driver Team Time Laps
    1. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1m22.821 30
    2. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m22.922s + 0.101 24
    3. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m23.397s + 0.576 24
    4. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m23.628s + 0.807 29
    5. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1m23.633s + 0.812 24
    6. Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1m23.845s + 1.024 26
    7. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m23.904s + 1.083 25
    8. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m23.983s + 1.162 24
    9. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 1m24.152s + 1.331 24
    10. Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1m24.268s + 1.447 27
    11. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m24.300s + 1.479 23
    12. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1m24.394s + 1.573 19
    13. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m24.546s + 1.725 24
    14. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m24.559s + 1.738 22
    15. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m24.608s + 1.787 25
    16. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m25.354s + 2.533 25
    17. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m25.559s + 2.738 27
    18. Jules Bianchi Force India-Mercedes 1m25.715s + 2.894 26
    19. Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1m26.440s + 3.619 27
    20. Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1m26.705s + 3.884 23
    21. Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1m26.755s + 3.934 28
    22. Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1m27.015s + 4.194 24
    23. Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1m27.101s + 4.280 21
    24. Dani Clos HRT-Cosworth 1m28.176s + 5.355 24

    Practice 2
    Pos Driver Team Time Laps
    1. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1m21.995 20
    2. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m22.180s + 0.185 20
    3. Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 1m22.253s + 0.258 33
    4. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m22.417s + 0.422 28
    5. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m22.582s + 0.587 22
    6. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m22.747s + 0.752 17
    7. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m22.794s + 0.799 23
    8. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m22.824s + 0.829 18
    9. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1m22.922s + 0.927 12
    10. Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1m23.160s + 1.165 19
    11. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m23.164s + 1.169 28
    12. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m23.337s + 1.342 26
    13. Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1m23.713s + 1.718 25
    14. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m23.814s + 1.819 17
    15. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1m23.841s + 1.846 28
    16. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m24.328s + 2.333 23
    17. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m24.345s + 2.350 27
    18. Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1m24.623s + 2.628 22
    19. Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1m24.823s + 2.828 28
    20. Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1m25.220s + 3.225 28
    21. Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1m27.104s + 5.109 27
    22. Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1m27.106s + 5.111 18
    23. Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1m27.185s + 5.190 22
    24. Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1m27.822s + 5.827 20

    Practice 3
    Pos Driver Team Time Laps
    1. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m21.550s 27
    2. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1m21.643 + 0.093 17
    3. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m21.671s + 0.121 29
    4. Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 1m21.876s + 0.326 22
    5. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m21.884s + 0.334 13
    6. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m21.953s + 0.403 20
    7. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1m22.110s + 0.560 24
    8. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m22.136s + 0.586 15
    9. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m22.191s + 0.641 20
    10. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m22.233s + 0.683 24
    11. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m22.381s + 0.831 21
    12. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1m22.387s + 0.837 20
    13. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m22.492s + 0.942 26
    14. Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1m22.530s + 0.980 25
    15. Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1m22.597s + 1.047 23
    16. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m22.716s + 1.166 24
    17. Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1m22.868s + 1.318 30
    18. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m22.931s + 1.381 30
    19. Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1m24.036s + 2.486 20
    20. Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1m24.547s + 2.997 18
    21. Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1m25.224s + 3.674 22
    22. Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1m25.497s + 3.947 21
    23. Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1m26.785s + 5.235 20
    24. Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1m26.898s + 5.348 26
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    Hamilton scores McLaren's 150th pole:

    Pos Driver Team Time Gap
    1. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1m20.953s
    2. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1m21.366s + 0.413
    3. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m21.416s + 0.463
    4. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m21.583s + 0.630
    5. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m21.730s + 0.777
    6. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m21.844s + 0.891
    7. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m21.900s + 0.947
    8. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m21.939s + 0.986
    9. Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 1m22.343s + 1.390
    10. Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1m22.847s + 1.894
    Q2 cut-off time: 1m21.697s Gap *
    11. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m21.715s + 0.655
    12. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m21.813s + 0.753
    13. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m21.895s + 0.835
    14. Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1m21.895s + 0.835
    15. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1m22.300s + 1.240
    16. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m22.380s + 1.320
    17. Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1m22.723s + 1.663
    Q1 cut-off time: 1m22.948s Gap *
    18. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m23.250s + 1.456
    19. Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1m23.576s + 1.782
    20. Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1m24.167s + 2.373
    21. Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1m25.244s + 3.450
    22. Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1m25.476s + 3.682
    23. Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1m25.916s + 4.122
    24. Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1m26.178s + 4.384

    Lewis Hamilton secures McLaren's 150th pole position in the Hungarian Grand Prix - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com
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    I was hoping Kimi would win so much! Meh... Strange that his tyres died much faster than Hamilton's.

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    I don't think it was a problem with tyres, but that it is more difficult to overtake (especially in a track like this) than to get there.
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    And I think where their cars were strong were different, the McLaren I think was much stronger in sector 3 leading to the DRS zone, which was also where Hamilton made up a lot of time in qualifying. The McLaren also seem to have better corner exit traction....

    The ending of the race was pretty exciting, but the race is probably a standard fare for Hungaroring when its dry, which is not good for wheel to wheel racing...
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    From what I understood, Hamilton was getting away in the first sector, especially first turn, while Kimi has mostly been in his DRS zone by the end of each lap and was running with his wing open.

    Regarding the tyres, there has been some radio talk between him and boxes that was like 'shhhhh....tyres....shhhhh...tyres!..shhhh' so I thought he was talking about himself.

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    very average race, with the results clearly playing into the hands of Alonso,
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    Quote Originally Posted by faksta View Post
    From what I understood, Hamilton was getting away in the first sector, especially first turn, while Kimi has mostly been in his DRS zone by the end of each lap and was running with his wing open.

    Regarding the tyres, there has been some radio talk between him and boxes that was like 'shhhhh....tyres....shhhhh...tyres!..shhhh' so I thought he was talking about himself.
    But if it would have been the tyres we would have seen a clear drop in speed like happened in Canada or in that other race at the start of the season where Kimi was 2nd and then dropped to 7th or 8th due to the terminated tyres.

    And yet, none of the drivers that changed tyres actually improved their positions. Is it just me, or Webber's last pit stop was a clear mistake in their strategy?
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    Vettel was catching Grosjean very rapidly, but the race was just too short.
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    Drivers on softs were running 1.5 and sometimes even 2 seconds a lap faster than those who remained on hards.

    Regarding Kimi's tyres, given that his set was several laps younger than the one on Hamilton's car, it's still strange to me that he couldn't use that advantage. Closing in by 0.5 of a second and more on each lap and then barely able to stay in McLaren's DRS zone (he was running in 1.1 or 1.2 on some laps). He was then eliminating that gap again, but still it was strange that he couldn't get close enough to overtake.

    Yay, I'm not a strategy pro, just sharing my thoughts.

    Wait, Pieter, you watched the race! Afraid you chose the wrong one, though. That said, I don't think Hungarian GP is among the most boring races anymore. I really enjoy watching this race for the last three years.
    Last edited by faksta; 07-30-2012 at 02:30 AM.

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    Didn't Kimi have a Kers issue?
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    He did in the very beginning, but then, as far as I understood, he was told to use some combination of buttons to relieve it. Then, when he battled with Hamilton, he was using KERS for sure. Our commentator even noted once that Hamilton was using less KERS on the main straight than Kimi.

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    Think they told Kimi to use 40kw instead of 60.

    Whatever the case he wasn't making any time on Hami down the straight and the Mclaren was good in Sector 3.

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