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Old 10-03-2008, 08:54 PM
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Ferrari boss says sedan out of the question

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As long as Luca di Montezemolo is in charge at Ferrari, the Italian automaker will never build a sedan. That was the declaration di Montezemolo made at the Paris Motor show yesterday, following the debut of rival Lamborghini’s Estoque four-door.
While Porsche is prepping its Panamera sedan and Aston Martin is putting the finishing touches on its Rapide, Ferrari is steadfast in its opposition to such a strategy.
The company chairman made it clear he feels sister company Maserati covers the sedan segment sufficiently. This seems to echo a recent statement by Ferrari spokesperson Davide Kluzer that SUVs and sedans are something “we will never do.”
Di Montezemolo also noted the supercar maker would not build a vehicle with a V10. Instead, it will focus mostly on V8s, plus new fuel-efficient technologies like the Formula One Kinetic Energy Recovery System.
So there you have it, folks. The Lamborghini Estoque will remain the world’s most exotic sedan for the foreseeable future.
I hope they still do V12s. Maybe smaller diplacement like a 3.6 (One-and-a-half F1 V8s stuck together).
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Old 10-03-2008, 09:01 PM
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Im glad, because so far all the exotic sedans look ridiculous. None of them have impressed me so far. I mean, the car is a good car, but we already knew that before they made them because of the company. so mainly the focus was look and features right? well they failed miserably if you ask me.
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Old 10-03-2008, 09:11 PM
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612 type 4-seater 2-door is all the space you need in your exotic GT car. Having four doors is just being greedy.
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Old 10-03-2008, 09:13 PM
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I'm sorta wondering what role an exotic sedan will play for people. Because you could just buy a Bentley and get power, performance, and more luxury. You buy an exotic for other reasons. Of course people will still want it for it's badge and uniqueness but I don't see a reason for it to be a big long term success. I bet it's a short term niche thing that will most likely play itself out.
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Old 10-03-2008, 10:30 PM
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Whoa... Ferrari can make GT car, Sportscars, Supercars, Hypercars, F1 cars, etc... Anything related to going fast... But, Why will they make a sedan???? It will seem out of place in the ferrari fleet...
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Old 10-03-2008, 10:35 PM
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I coulda predicted this :

I hope they still do V12s. Maybe smaller diplacement like a 3.6 (One-and-a-half F1 V8s stuck together).
Its hard to stick a V8 and a V12 together. In a V8 the cylinders are at a 90 degree angle and on a V12 60 degrees (even though Ferrari uses a 65 degree angle).

Personally I'd love to see a twin turbo V12 in 3 litres (called the 250), 3.3 litres (called the 275) or even four litres (called the 330). That'd be sweet.

And of course, two doors only!
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Old 10-03-2008, 11:47 PM
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Im glad, because so far all the exotic sedans look ridiculous. None of them have impressed me so far. I mean, the car is a good car, but we already knew that before they made them because of the company. so mainly the focus was look and features right? well they failed miserably if you ask me.

I do think you have to take a new look at the Monteverdi 375/4 sedan from the seventies. If that is ridiculous, I don't have it anymore. Furthermore, the wedge-shaped Lagonda designed by William Towns wasn't exactly a misser neither.

The current BMW 7-series, OTOH, is a designers' nightmare...
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Old 10-03-2008, 11:54 PM
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Luca pointed at the Maserati QP. It is a hard to beat design, and commercially successful (over 20,000 now), so why spend money on a competitor from the same house.
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Old 10-04-2008, 02:21 AM
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In other news this week, Hummer says it won't do a 4 door saloon either.
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Its hard to stick a V8 and a V12 together. In a V8 the cylinders are at a 90 degree angle and on a V12 60 degrees (even though Ferrari uses a 65 degree angle).

Personally I'd love to see a twin turbo V12 in 3 litres (called the 250), 3.3 litres (called the 275) or even four litres (called the 330). That'd be sweet.

And of course, two doors only!
A turbocharger in a Ferrari would be somehow wrong.

(I know they've done several turbocharged cars in the past)
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Old 10-04-2008, 02:33 AM
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^ i disagree if it was a V8, but i do agree in that a V12 with turbo's would be...wierd (wrong?)
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Its hard to stick a V8 and a V12 together. In a V8 the cylinders are at a 90 degree angle and on a V12 60 degrees (even though Ferrari uses a 65 degree angle).

Personally I'd love to see a twin turbo V12 in 3 litres (called the 250), 3.3 litres (called the 275) or even four litres (called the 330). That'd be sweet.

And of course, two doors only!
a twin-turbo V8 is not that wierd and not that wrong for ferrari

But a twin-turbo V12 is something wrong... What they will have is a car with too much power and too much torque...

It could easily reach 1000-1300 bhp... (The most powerful naturally-aspirated engine found in the Ferrari FXX Evoluzione has 860 bhp)

Even if they will limit the engine to less than 1000 bhp... They will still have too much torque, about 1000Nm or even more... Yeah, i know the top speed will be awesome, it may even hold the record for the fastest production car but we have to remember it needs to go around corners. It would have problems in handling because of too much torque spinning the wheels too much...

Just watch the video in top gear when they have reviewed the brabus S biturbo roadster...

YouTube - Top Gear - Brabus S Bi-Turbo Roadster
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Even if they will limit the engine to less than 1000 bhp... They will still have too much torque, about 1000Nm or even more... Yeah, i know the top speed will be awesome, it may even hold the record for the fastest production car but we have to remember it needs to go around corners. It would have problems in handling...[/url]
What does horsepower have to do with handling?
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What does horsepower have to do with handling?
I'm sorry... but i'm afraid you have not understood me that much...

I wasn't saying about too much horsepower affecting handling... My point there is about too much TORQUE

Too much torque will spin the wheels so much that its nearly impossible to control the car...

Now do you understand my point... I'm sorry if my english is not that good...

If you want... You could watch the video on the link that i've given for you to understand me more...
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Lets see how long they last until they cannot resist joining the trend.
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