Porsche 997 Carrera S vs. BMW E46 M3 CSL

[andy.muc]

2004 Porsche 911 997 Carrera S

Weight: 1407 kilo
Engine: 6-Cylinder Boxer
Engine Location: Rear , longitudinally mounted
Displacement: 3.800 liter
Valvetrain: 4 valves / cylinder, DOHC
Fuel feed: Fuel injection
Aspiration: Naturally Aspirated
Gearbox: 6 speed Manual
Drive: Rear wheel drive
Power: 355 bhp / 265 KW
Torque: 400 Nm / 295 ft lbs
BHP/Liter: 93 bhp / liter
Top Speed: 293 km/h / 182 mph
0-60 mph Acceleration: 4.7 s
Price: €85.176+


2003 BMW E46 M3 CSL

Weight: 1385 kilo
Engine: Straight 6
Engine Location: Front , longitudinally mounted
Displacement: 3.246 liter
Valvetrain: 4 valves / cylinder, DOHC
Fuel feed: MSS 54HP Fuel injection
Aspiration: Naturally Aspirated
Gearbox: 6 speed Sequential
Drive: Rear wheel drive
Power: 360 bhp / 269 KW @ 7900 rpm
Torque: 370 Nm / 273 ft lbs @ 4900 rpm
BHP/Liter: 111 bhp / liter
Top Speed: 250 km/h / 155 mph (limited)
0-60 mph Acceleration: 4.8 s
Price: €84.300+

Two completely different engine concepts with almost identical results at the end. IMO a very close competition...

[Sweeney921]

i guess with such close stats, it all comes down to the styling. I'll take the bimmer.

[jones.dk]

the stats on paper might been pretty close, but they are 2 very different car!
The prosche is a GT and the beemer is more like a road-racer...

i'd take the porsche!

[andy.muc]

@jones.dk

I think i have to disagree. The Porsche is not a Grand Tourer to me.
IMO they are both what you call "road-racers"...

[Coventrysucks]

When you factor in that the standard M3 is only slightly slower than the CSL, and realise that the CSL costs 47% more than a standard M3 the context shifts slightly.

Only something like a Pagani Zonda or Maybach would be a worse investment than the CSL (Pagani looses £1000 ($1860) of its value every week).

At the moment, you'd probably be able to sell a 997 on for a profit, and then I'd buy something more interesting.

[cuntukimushroom]

ill have the porsche anyday, anytime and anywhere. dont wake me up im still sleeping.

[taz_rocks_miami]

i guess with such close stats, it all comes down to the styling. I'll take the bimmer.

I agree, I'd get the Bimmer for the same reasons. The Porsche is just another 911 to me.

[tmnt_ppn]

Porsche always

[RS6]

The Porsche. A 911 2.7 RS would pleasure me more though. Oh, and the original M3 was fantastic, better than this CSL.

[jcp123]

Porsche. I can't stand that yuppie BMW image, as good as the car may be. Plus like someone said, I could probably sell the Porsche for more and get what I REALLY want. A Cadillac. Plus have money left over for gas and restoration.

[Luciferous]

I chose the beemer, just because I love that engine.

Bear in mind the 997 GT3 and GT2 haven't come out yet, and they would be the most similar in spirit to the CSL...

[aNOBLEman]

I would take the Carrera S and then sell it and buy a C6 ZO6 when it comes out and I'd have money left over.

[my porsche]

Der neu neun elf, jeden tag

[jcp123]

Oh, it's on now. German time.

Der neue Elfer, benutzt er eine neuer boxer-Motor, oder is der 3,8-liter eben eine Variant der 3,4/3,6l reihe?

[PerfAdv]

Die Geschwindigkeit, mit der die 997 das CSL, wird nur durch, wie schnell die 997 das 'measly CSL' im Schmutz begraben


*Basically, I prefer the 997 is what I'm trying to say. I don't know a word of German, I used a translator. I know those translators suck so what does this really say?