or his ME-4-12
or his ME-4-12
It was a onne off car that a United Arab Emirates citizen created because wanted the fastest car int the worldOriginally Posted by SL500
The C1000 is faster than the Sirius
BTW I think the Eb110SS is better looking than the Veyron
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Anyone know what the power to weight ratio on the Bugatti is?
Idk, find the weight and divide by the horsepower.Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
well here's the new BUGATTI VEYRON ON THE COVER OF CAR AND DRIVER AND IF YOU GET CAR AND DRIVER READ THE ATRICAL ABOUT IT
Sorry about putting this here in such an old thread, didnt know where else to put it. None-the-less, here we are. Just read the Autocar magazine article on the Veyron, a real eye opener...
Originally Posted by Autocar
For all the people who scream and shout about the McLaren still being king, sadly not the case my friend. From the sounds of it, the Veyron isnt just a nose ahead in terms of speed, it will outpace the McLaren day in day out. As goes for handling....
Originally Posted by Autocar
Im seriously amazed by this car. Ive prob said this before, but during the build up to this car I reckonned it wouldnt be that spectacular, it would be just alright. But my word Bugatti have pulled off something awesomely impressive. If only I could see one in the flesh.....
Thanks to Autocar.com for the article, very good read if you want. They complain at the end of the Veyron being too clinical, but in a car of this calibre, if there was a lack of anything, it would have defeated the purpose.
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Only if you judge the cars only on speed alone, even then it isn't impressive.Originally Posted by RazaBlade
12 years and nearly 400bhp more to achieve "slightly" faster than the F1.
Pretty poor.
Then when you consider the compromise of the Veyron - a design inherantly "wrong" from day one. Why else would it take 5 years of fine tuning to reach a car suitable for release to the public. Overheating, inherant instability, public crashes...
Then when you remember that the McLaren in comprised almost entirely of components created especially for the car, rather than being a VAG parts bin, you must surely realise that the McLaren has a purity of purpose and honesty that I don't believe will ever be replicated in a road going car.
Thanks for all the fish
they made the fundamental mistake of all the eighties hypercars that never saw the light of day.
they released the specs of the car before it was even in the prototype stage and have had an uphill struggle since.
i still think that it was ferdinand piech having a joke before he left and the engineers took him seriously.
I like the Veyron. Not because of its pure simplicity but because it's a Supercar representing the now, a technological tour de force. When Mitsu EVOs can run with 911s, AWD is a must for any roadgoing machine with this much power. Unlike the lithe F1 that is a purer sportscar the Veyron (at 4300 lbs) is a rhino that can run with the gazelle. Not so much a sportscar but a ultracapable GT.Originally Posted by Coventrysucks
As for the 5 year delay. Better Bugatti/VAG work out the 'bugs', rather than having a recall based development. Where the first few years the buyers do the testing.
"Racing improves the breed" ~Sochiro Honda
But thats the point! Its not slightly faster!!! It goes from 0-200 in the same time it take the McLaren to do 130-200!!! That is a huge difference! IMO it took 5 years of fine tuning because the package being delivered had to be a premium one. You must have read all the technology packed into this car, to make it as useable as possible, the movable front wing to release build up of pressure springs to mind. Im not saying the McLaren is a bad car, far from it. It just took an even better machine in every way to topple it, and IMO thats the Veyron.
It actually is. Its simple physics, the Bugatti has to have that much power to go that fast. If it had say 600bhp, it obviously wouldn't go 253mph(403kmh), more like 200 tops, it needs that extra 400bhp to overcome the building air resistance, the weight of the car, friction, just so many things that are so small at normal speeds we don't notice them, but can be devastating if underestimated at the speeds the Bugatti is capable of. The Mclaren F1 is purposebuilt for speed, but so is the Bugatti Veyron, just with higher interior standards. I'd love to see a stripped down Bugatti Veyron race car, no nonsense and no comforts, just bare carbon fibre in the cockpit. Imagine how fast the car would be then!Originally Posted by Coventrysucks
ps no one happens to know wether or not the guys on Top Gear will get it soon, do they?
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OBSESSED is a word the lazy use to describe the DEDICATED!
they should put that W16 in the Enzo
After finding this site it's been growing on me, well the rear anyway.
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It is quite easy to work out how much power you "need" to achieve 250mphOriginally Posted by "Clevor" Angel
D = ½ρAv²Cd
= (assuming the veyron has a Cd of 0.32, that of the F1) 5106N
R= KrG
= 496N
= Tractive force of 5602N @ 403km/h
Power = force x velocity (403km/h = 112m/s)
= 5602 x 112
= 627KW
= 852PS
The Veyron has 1001PS...
The McLaren F1 needs only 731PS to achieve the same speed, 270PS less than the Veyron. Oh, and a taller 6th gear.
The "reason" that it needs so much power seems to be due to the large frontal area, which stems from the fact that the car was developed from a fanciful styling exersice, rather than a suitable engineering package.
And the fact that it weighs over 2 tonnes with anything but the skinniest of drivers.
How does it weigh over two tonnes by the way?
It isn't significantly bigger than the Koenigsegg/Zonda/Enzo/CGT et al...
Even the awd Murcielago is 150kg lighter...
Superembarrasment, not a supercar.
Thanks for all the fish
Originally Posted by Coventrysucks
the mclaren can't go 250 though "only" 240 so getting that last 10mph would probably require the value of 852 that you calculate
i agree that the f1 is by far the better car as it almost wieghs half (!) as much
i reckon they must inlcude the wight of the drivers wallet in the glovebox when quoting the cars overall weight
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