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Old 03-05-2007, 03:46 AM
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No, it's a race car. They fold back you jam a fuel filler nozzle in them then spring back when it's taken out.
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Old 03-05-2007, 04:15 AM
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No, it's a race car. They fold back you jam a fuel filler nozzle in them then spring back when it's taken out.
Exactly like it is on new Renaults.. Works very well.
Newer forget fuel-filler cap on the roof again ftw!!
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Old 03-05-2007, 10:02 AM
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You can't tell how much downforce is generated simply by looking at it.

If the basic shape of the Koenigsegg is low drag/low lift, then it does not the raft of additional spoilers that some cars have.

It was the Mercedes CLR that "flipped" by the way, and it wasn't the only one.

The Porsche 911 GT1 also flipped, and a number of other cars came very close.

People always point to the CLR, because it was the most publicised, but in reality it was a generic flaw in the aerodynamic concept being applied at the time.
no I know you can't, but you have to agree it doesn't have as much spoilers and other tools to create enough downforce as other cars do, and I'm assuming they don't have them just for the fun of having spoilers and such . so I was just thinking that it won't have enough downforce needed for stability and acceleration, the standard ccx also had trouble in that area. And on the point on the CLR, I'm sorry you were right, it was the CLR, was confused with it's predecessor, wich was the CLK-GTR, apologies, in my post, it was just to make a point I know it wasn't the only but as you said it is the one most people know about.

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Old 03-05-2007, 10:31 AM
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I see your point that it doesn't have the abundance of wings, louvres, splitters etc that some racers have, but you have to remember that this is intended for competition in the GT1 class. It will not be competing with the LMP type cars with the huge downforce they create.

I'm not an expert on the exact regs for GT1 but if you look at the other regular class competitors (Aston DBR9, Corvette C6R etc) then you'll see that the aero package basically consists of a big front splitter, a big rear wing, and a big rear diffuser, along with plenty of louvres for cooling and reducing high pressure in the wheel arches etc. This Koenigsegg definitely looks like it'll have a big splitter and hefty rear wing. The problem may be with the diffuser and underbody; as RacingManiac points out there isn't much of a rear overhang for a diffuser to be fixed. However, it should have a very wide, flat underbody which will no doubt be of benefit aero-wise. Also, I wouldn't expect what we see in these pics to be the final racecar. It looks to me like a standard road car with a wing bolted on and a few louvres over the wheelarches. I'd expect to see plenty of revisions from windtunnel and track testing and the like before we ever see it racing.

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Are you basing that assumption on that Top Gear episode where the Stig crashed? I wouldn't read too much into that. The Koenigsegg in standard trim (ie without the wing) is clearly designed for low drag, top-speed performance. The original 240mph claim was the headline grabbing selling point of the car so the press cars were generally set up for that kind of performance. A huge rear wing like that in the pics should be plenty to keep it more than stable.

And yes it was definitely the Merc CLR that flipped at Le Mans (3 times in fact), not the CLK-GTR.
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Old 03-05-2007, 10:49 AM
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well, he did crash, and I don't think they'll have done that just for the fun of it, but you're right they're mostly just c**king about.
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it doesn't have as much spoilers and other tools to create enough downforce as other cars do
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If the basic shape of the Koenigsegg is low drag/low lift, then it does not need the raft of additional spoilers that some cars have.
Don't forget that the number of wings and things depends on the circuit, so it isn't much good comparing one car in maximum downforce setup to this generic deployment.

Furthermore, it may be that this was just a mock up for promotional purposes, and the finalised aerodynamic package is still in development.
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Umm, RTFA??? In the very second line it states that the car is detuned to just over 600bhp, and there is no mention of torque figures. The car has a minimum legal weight of 1100kg. You seem to have plucked those figures out of thin air.
I meant that the production car is capable of 1000hp, 1000nm and weighing only 1000kg what with the ethanol compatabilities and all. It mentions 1060nm on the 29th line, third from the right.
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Old 03-11-2007, 06:54 PM
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Exactly like it is on new Renaults.. Works very well.
Newer forget fuel-filler cap on the roof again ftw!!
Renault have that on their production cars? That's pretty cool
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Are there any more photos? of the inside and outside?
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Old 04-28-2007, 11:10 AM
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Is this car going to drive at Le Mans?
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Old 04-28-2007, 11:41 AM
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Is this car going to drive at Le Mans?
It complies with ACO regulations, so probably yes.
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Old 05-04-2007, 07:52 AM
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Anyone know how much HP this thing would make without the air restrictor?

Anyone know the mass of the engine?

Thanks.
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Old 05-04-2007, 10:45 AM
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Are there any videos or more photos of this race car?
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Old 05-04-2007, 12:07 PM
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Anyone know how much HP this thing would make without the air restrictor?
I'm betting on a lot...

Now seriously, I doubt the number will ever be available.
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Old 05-04-2007, 01:25 PM
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I'm betting on a lot...

Now seriously, I doubt the number will ever be available.
That makes me very sad.
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