VE to benefit next Falcon; BFII this October...

[fpv_gtho]

Half the reason Mooney probably said that was because Holden wouldve been under pressure to put all its bets into VE to make sure it worked globally.

Now Ford's under similar pressure from their engineering squad, so who knows. If theyre going to do anything for Sydney this year, they might show Iosis, or do another tease for what Orion could look like. I wont expect anything though. At least that way i wont get expectations crushed, or i'll get extremely blown away...Win-win situation really

[adrenaline]

Half the reason Mooney probably said that was because Holden wouldve been under pressure to put all its bets into VE to make sure it worked globally.

Now Ford's under similar pressure from their engineering squad, so who knows. If theyre going to do anything for Sydney this year, they might show Iosis, or do another tease for what Orion could look like. I wont expect anything though. At least that way i wont get expectations crushed, or i'll get extremely blown away...Win-win situation really

I doubt they would give an Orion hint. I think they will do something semi-major, because they havent shown any decent show cars in a while and Holden seems to keep winning fans with theirs...

[SlickHolden]

Half the reason Mooney probably said that was because Holden wouldve been under pressure to put all its bets into VE to make sure it worked globally.

Now Ford's under similar pressure from their engineering squad, so who knows. If theyre going to do anything for Sydney this year, they might show Iosis, or do another tease for what Orion could look like. I wont expect anything though. At least that way i wont get expectations crushed, or i'll get extremely blown away...Win-win situation really

I cop some crap at times because I'm a open Mooney disliker. I just think he's a toss thats all.

Maybe we might see a flared guard low coupe that might lean on the Orion side.

[Monty_Burns]

Maybe we might see a flared guard low coupe that might lean on the Orion side.

I was thinking the exact same thing yesturday, when I doodled this (it aint 100% accurate cause its just a freehand sketch, but i think it gives some idea of my personal wishes for Ford design )

[adrenaline]

hmm..its got the iosis triangles going on (sort of)...overall pretty nice

[SlickHolden]

Thats bloody good mate.
Hope to see something like that at the show.


I think i should bring back the...

Mooney's a wanker clap clap clap clap clap

[fpv_gtho]

Carpoint are expecting Ford to release initial details regarding BF2 tomorrow, with the onsale date for October. A leaked document has apprently been passed around from Ford where they state 11 areas where (they think) the BF still outclasses the VE.

http://www.carpoint.com.au/car-review/1957859.aspx

Unfortunately for Ford, those 11 things arent anything such as "we hold a 1 second acceleration advantage" and is more like "we hold a 0.1L/100km fuel economy advantage" and a few other things. Carpoint are speculating the 6 speed and ESP are unlikely to become standard fitment, but become options across the board which i think would be a mistake as they'd still be behind the 380 and possibly Camry and Aurion for standard equipment. They cant take the FWD for granted anymore.

[SlickHolden]

This looks familiar very familar.... This was posted some time back by a member on the FF.com... I'll go over and see if i can find it.

Ok found it... http://www.fordforums.com.au/showpos...67&postcount=1

[fpv_gtho]

Yeah some of them i dont see where it will get them. The VE is an all new car, and the BF has arguably been the better of the 2 since late '02 and it still hasnt gotten them continual market leadership. Theres been the odd month where its come down to the wire and one or 2 where theres been a fair margin in the Falcons favour, but other than that the YTD sales have always been in Commodores favour.

The only place i can see them getting sales from this is those people who think the VZ looks better than the VE.

[adrenaline]

So Ford will reveal the BFII tomorrow or just detail some of the changes?

[fpv_gtho]

Both i think.

Pics and details have already been leaked out here: http://forum.streetfords.com.au/showthread.php?p=3435

[acemotorsport]

fpv can you post the pics on here

[fpv_gtho]

New front end on XT/Futura/Fairmont/Ghia
The ZF 6 speed auto is optional on XT/Futura/Fairmont
DSC optional on XT/Futura/Fairmont/XR6 (but only with ZF 6speed auto, Sports suspension and 17" wheels on XT/Futura/Fairmont)
NO CHANGE to XR exterior - new cloth trim only
NO mention of Turbo engine in Ghia in this dealer info
Ghia gets Fairlane interior with China Beige leather and Onyx Black centre stack
new 17" x 8" wheels on Ghia
Ghia badge is now block text style off Territory - Script Ghia badge gone
Exposed exhaust on Ghia
Bluetooth available from December
XT/Futura/Fairmont get revised rear bumper (sedan only)
XT/Futura/Fairmont front ends differ only in chrome detailing and headlights on XT (where again it shares dark bezel with Ghia)
5 new exterior colours

[acemotorsport]

the xr8 dont look diffrent

[fpv_gtho]

It didnt recieve any changes supposedly