Conan O'Brien is funny. [/endthread]Originally Posted by Blitz_
Conan O'Brien is funny. [/endthread]Originally Posted by Blitz_
I guess if your american you get Conan O'Brien, as Australians, we don't.
Interesting point FPV raised regarding the Territory taking over Family Lugging Duties, so the Falcon can become more of a Performance/Desireable piece of kit, it's good that Ford could use this product positioning line, which would further allow the Falcon to make a name for itself as a performance icon following the V8 debarcle of the 80's.....
But again, Mitsubishi are not looking the healthiest, and unless there is some good local and international product on the way, Mitsubishi will be in a much larger pickle than they are; i highly doubt they will ever repay all of the debt there in.
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Mitsubishi have made it fairly clear that in order to completely secure their future, they need a second model line in production locally, and for a while it was between the Pajero and the Territory-esque Endeavor sold in the US, based off the 380's platform.
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The Current Outlander is nothing more than a Niche player in one of the biggest-growing markets; partially due to it's oddball styling, partially due to it's utter-averageness.
The New one, by all accounts, Should do well, but, if built here, and to be sold in competition with the Territory and Captiva (S3X) will need to do much better to overcome the stigma of being a Japanese car with all profits going towards an offshore-based company.
That, and the fact it's also styled to minority tastes; I love it, but the general market may not find it totally attractive, when the Default Territory is so classy in comparison.
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Dude lay off!
It isnt "omg fully sick"? its a family car! what do you want? Falcons and 380's arnt fully sick either, and lets not go to America...
I like the car, I will be awaiting the removal of the tape.
All about the t-tops
Thats exactly my point; the VE will look heaps hot in SS guise, but underdone in Exec spec.
Bad styling.
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TVR, if you read what I said, its a good looking car, but I am disappointed because Michael Simcoe said the car design was REVOLUTIONARY. It is far from revolutionary. Its boring. Are you basically saying that the VE has the RIGHT to be boring because its a family car??
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I dare say the 2008/9 and 2010/11 models will be alot bolder. The VE had to be toned down so that the carryover VZ models wouldnt look out of place
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No, Im saying it doesnt have to be breathtaking...or "fully sick"Originally Posted by ADRENALINE
I wouldnt call a Falcon XT or 380...base model...exciting either.
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OMG I forgot about that...the wagon and utility will stay on the current architecture for now...lol ur a genius!Originally Posted by fpv_gtho
I didnt say it necessarily had to be absolutely amazing, but I think thats what most people were expecting. Its Next Gen, most people expected next gen design. Itll prolly look pretty slick in the metal though, as ive said already.Originally Posted by TVR IS KING
And about the XT and 380...the XT is and old design, on old architecture. Its reaching the end of its life. The standard 380...lets not go there.
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I think its fairly safe to assume the Falcon and Commodore cant survive with their base models looking like theyre ready for the taxi ranks. I personally would be dissapointed if the VE Executive was only "slightly" better equiped than the VZ Exec.
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When you see the VE exec you can see they are trying to disguise it as a Astra.
BA Lights?
Audi Glass?
Looks more like a Falcon? Looks more like a torana SSX. When it's ready we can all judge it fully. See what it has in common with others.
I remember some first comments when the VY was first released, So many said that is Holden's AU, Time showed it wasn't.
But i think of fuel economy.
The VT with VS engine was alright on Fuel, It got better by the VY it might even have been the best for fuel economy in a large 6, It could get easy under 7L per 100 on highway travels.
The Alloytech engine wont be worse on fuel as the VT wasn't over the VS and the VT was over 200-300kg heavier,
That was the 6lt they were talking about not the alloytech engine on fuel economy.Originally Posted by ADRENALINE
Originally Posted by Blitz_Why stop now you didnt hold back in the first Quote lolOriginally Posted by Blitz_
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If you cant see audi in the statesman then consult your optometristOriginally Posted by SlickHolden
The lights have merged into BA/F falcon..more rounded...if anything they look like tezza lights...shapewise.
I agree when its ready for show and tell we can judge it...but Id say thats the final design.
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i reckon the SS looks pretty damn good, and as for the lights, they're taped, so who cares? they'll look different on the proper car. I'm saving final judgement for the real car, not something lathered up with tape. And i know this is a proper production line car, but my point remains vaild, the tape hides alot of the lines and details
Your right the car will appear different with the tape gone...but the fact remains that the design is conservative...itll prolly look damn good but its conservative..
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