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    Greenest cars (lifecycle analysis)

    Every year (since the mid-1990s) greenercars.org publishes the cleanest cars based on a factory-to-junkyard analysis. I went through the list and picked-out some of the more-interesting cars. The ones that surprised me I put in bold:

    100 maximum score
    59 SmartForTwo EV
    58 Spark EV
    57 Prius City

    55 Leaf EV. Prius, Civic, and other compact hybrids.
    54 Mirage, Fiesta (normal nonhybrids) (3 cylinders)(and cleanest manual shift cars)
    54 Civic Natural Gas
    52 Prius V
    50 CRZ (manual hybrid)

    46 Jetta TDI (diesel; cleaner than the gasoline version)
    40 Ford Transit (van)
    37 Tesla Model S EV (dirtier than a diesel)
    37 Tacoma (pickup)
    36 Odyssey (minivan)

    WORST:
    21 Bentley Musanne (luxury sedan)
    19 Bugatti Veyron (16 cylinder sportscar)
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    Finally a reason to buy a Veyron!
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    Even if someone gave my a Veyron Zi wouldn't take it, because it costs a lot to maintain. Each tire is around $1000 a piece and needs replacement every 10,000 miles (if you drive the car the way it's intended to be driven: fast). The oil is some special blend. Jay Leno asked "how much" and was told "You don't want to know." It's a car, not for millionaires, but billionaires. People that can afford the initial cost AND the maintenance cost.

    BTW the original insight CVT/PZEV car scored 59 on the greenlist (#1). It's a shame Honda no longer makes it.

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    I know how to actually be green (and I hate the word).

    Build a lot of nuclear power plants. We already have the solution.

    The end.

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    I have checked the list, and it is clearly only looking at cars available in the US. (it is the "world-series" approach obviously). Come on guys, there are more green cars available than the junk you have over there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitdy View Post
    I know how to actually be green (and I hate the word).

    Build a lot of nuclear power plants. We already have the solution.

    The end.
    If I put a windmill on my car then connect it to the battery with some cables or something does that actually make it a hybrid?

    Do I get bonus green points if I am electrocuted?

    I don't like being wasteful for the sake of being wasteful, but this green nonsense is slightly annoying. If I can afford a Hemi Challenger, let me have it without being looked at as if I was a mass murderer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    If I can afford a Hemi Challenger, let me have it without being looked at as if I was a mass murderer.
    The polluter pays, and he who can afford it, pollutes....
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    By dint of where I live, I am very green. When you frame it like that, you realize policymakers, politicians, and the elecorate have more work to do and to think more long term.

    Infrastructure is good, cutting down CO2/emissions/pollutions is good, and we can do it. We can even do it in a way that is minimally harmful to industry if we adopt a power generation system like France or my province, as well as striving for a more integrated approach.

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    Clean, silent, boring, unanimous vehicles are the future unfortunately.

    Petrolheads do not exist anymore, people will not care for an own car but are more interested in having a new smart Phone and other technology. Car as a status symbol? No the rich will buy space shuttles.

    It is not even said you will own a vehicle, you will rent it from the state or use as public transport.

    Oil and gas have been depleted and the vehicles as we call cars nowadays are long gone as being pollutant, ineffecient and forbidden anywhere due to strict smog control. Some museums will display them still for all to see.

    The electric computercontrolled egg will humm once, twice and within a perfectly arranged safe distance, you will follow the egg before you untill you have reached your destination.

    Hopefully I will not witness it anymore.

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    See? This is why I drive a Mazda.

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    I drive a Mazda too.

    (Never mind that it is a rear wheel drive sportscar)

    It's not even the first Mazda in the family.

    It's the third.

    Does that make me the most ecological person ever?
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