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Old 06-23-2006, 08:09 AM
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Or just avoid buying an alfa romeo.
Alfas are some of the sexiest cars in the world. All of them look so amazingly feminine, and have great feeling.
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Old 06-23-2006, 08:10 AM
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Alfas are some of the sexiest cars in the world.
And that more than makes up for all the depreciation in the world...
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Old 06-23-2006, 08:15 AM
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And that more than makes up for all the depreciation in the world...
You don't even need to worry about the depreciation. It'll break down and evaporate in no time.
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Old 06-23-2006, 08:16 AM
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You don't even need to worry about the depreciation. It'll break down and evaporate in no time.
Base that sentence on facts. That's a myth. I never heard directly from an Alfa owner, a complaint about reliability. Old Alfas rusted away easily. But they never were really unreliable. Their engines are strong enough.
What gave the unreliability image to the Alfas were the Boxer engines. Not that they weren't reliable. But their valve opening got out of tune easily if the engine wasn't revved up regularly. Since many owners usually used the car for city traffic, those engines would start sounding horribly and choking with gas. What would usually happened was their owners taking the car to a garage to have them timed again. All the mechanicals used to do was check the fluids, pick the car and go to the highway stretching each gear as long as reasonable. When the cars came back from that "exercise" they were sounding sweet and quiet again, with better fuel effiency and performance. Alfas always were cars for the connoisseurs.
BTW, here goes an anorak fact: on their time, a Giulia Sprint was more expensive than a Porsche 356. Maybe there was a reason for that.
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Old 06-23-2006, 08:20 AM
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Base that sentence on facts.
Only after you return to humour mode.
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Old 06-23-2006, 08:36 AM
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Only after you return to humour mode.
Have I ever been humourous? According to Matt, today I'm on "elderly man mode". I pretend to be consistent.
Read my edit to the previous post.
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Old 06-23-2006, 09:03 AM
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Have I ever been humourous?
You were yesterday. I just have a feeling you're trying very hard to be unhumourous today.

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Old 06-23-2006, 09:07 AM
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Base that sentence on facts. That's a myth. I never heard directly from an Alfa owner, a complaint about reliability. Old Alfas rusted away easily. But they never were really unreliable. Their engines are strong enough.
What gave the unreliability image to the Alfas were the Boxer engines. Not that they weren't reliable. But their valve opening got out of tune easily if the engine wasn't revved up regularly. Since many owners usually used the car for city traffic, those engines would start sounding horribly and choking with gas. What would usually happened was their owners taking the car to a garage to have them timed again. All the mechanicals used to do was check the fluids, pick the car and go to the highway stretching each gear as long as reasonable. When the cars came back from that "exercise" they were sounding sweet and quiet again, with better fuel effiency and performance. Alfas always were cars for the connoisseurs.
BTW, here goes an anorak fact: on their time, a Giulia Sprint was more expensive than a Porsche 356. Maybe there was a reason for that.
The 33 also had the problem of the two twin choke carbs in the 1.7 QV version. As you say city driving meant they got out of tune very easily, and there weren't many maechanics who knew how to properly tune them. By the way did you consider a Series 4 Alfa Spider when you bought the MX-5, Hugo?
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You were yesterday. I just have a feeling you're trying very hard to be unhumourous today.
And you're trying to spoil my effort.
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Old 06-23-2006, 09:13 AM
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By the way did you consider a Series 4 Alfa Spider when you bought the MX-5, Hugo?
I seriously did. I wanted it a lot as I think it's a far more stylish and refined car than the MX-5. But unfortunately, it seems like I'm not the only one thinking like that, since it's hard to find one for sale and when you do, they are very expensive. All of them above 10.000€ without air conditioned or any of the extras my Mazda has.
I was prepared to forget the pure driving experience for that bit extra style and heritage. But I was definately not willing to pay 2000€ more for a worst car.
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Old 06-23-2006, 09:17 AM
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I seriously did. I wanted it a lot as I think it's a far more stylish and refined car than the MX-5. But unfortunately, it seems like I'm not the only one thinking like that, since it's hard to find one for sale and when you do, they are very expensive. All of them above 10.000 without air conditioned or any of the extras my Mazda has.
I was prepared to forget the pure driving experience for that bit extra style and heritage. But I was definately not willing to pay 2000 more for a worst car.
Above 10.000 That's some serious money. You could almost have a Duetto for that...
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Old 06-23-2006, 09:21 AM
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The latest Alfa Romeos are pretty damn reliable! I love them. They actually scored higher than Mercedes Benz and VW in Top Gear JD Power Survey one year...

And Husain, that picture gave me the best laugh I've had all week. Thanks
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Old 06-23-2006, 09:24 AM
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Above 10.000 That's some serious money. You could almost have a Duetto for that...
And fight the rust.
A friend of mine sold a 1600 Duetto some 3 years ago. But the prospect of repairing it was scary. He's now selling his 1750 SII, wich is a rather good shape. But my pocket is not deep.
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Old 06-23-2006, 09:32 AM
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And fight the rust.
A friend of mine sold a 1600 Duetto some 3 years ago. But the prospect of repairing it was scary. He's now selling his 1750 SII, wich is a rather good shape. But my pocket is not deep.
That's a shame... Still I'd love one...
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Old 06-23-2006, 09:39 AM
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That's a shame... Still I'd love one...
So would I. On my opinion, the S4 is probably the best looking Spider after the Duetto. The cut-tail of the SII is a bit of a clumsy to end such a curvaceous and stylish body.
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