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    Spyker press conference just ended, obviously Victor Muller had lots of nice things to say about pretty much all parties involved. What he mentioned about the somewhat near future, developing a whole new model, practically a compact car, is virtually impossible with the current business plan. But Spyker has experience in building cars in low volume, and Mr. Muller says he's a big fan of Aero X...

    Anyway, the acute threat is now out of the way. Coping the next few years will be the next big step.

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    Well at least there's hope.
    Quote Originally Posted by PR
    In 2009 Saab sold 39.903 cars and produced 20.791 cars versus selling 94.751 cars in 2008 and producing 89.086 cars.
    Wow!
    Lack of charisma can be fatal.
    Visca Catalunya!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    Well at least there's hope.

    Wow!
    Relatively speaking, is that a lot? Or a little? Seems like it's not a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSXType-R View Post
    Relatively speaking, is that a lot? Or a little? Seems like it's not a lot.
    Well from one year to the other they lost almost two thirds of their sales. Even by niche standards this is quite a catastrophe.

    Altough it may have to do as well with the fact that Saab was on the very verge of dying.
    Lack of charisma can be fatal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    Well from one year to the other they lost almost two thirds of their sales. Even by niche standards this is quite a catastrophe.

    Altough it may have to do as well with the fact that Saab was on the very verge of dying.
    Then Spyker has a lot of work on its hands.

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    I beleive Spyker can spike Saab back to life. Saabs may end up becoming spiked cars on steroids.

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    Thumbs up

    Quote Originally Posted by Dino Scuderia View Post
    If they can sell 23 Spykers and 23 Saab's they'll out sell Chrysler.
    LOL! Well said!

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    Saab needs a complete redesign.
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    PINGAS!!!!

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    In cursory overview:

    [bankrupt and/or dodgy] Spyker is already $54m euro in debt.
    [bankrupt] SAAB has been losing money for years.
    [bankrupt] GM has negotiated future sureties to bleed money out of its stone.

    And yet the future is bright and viable and smelling of roses (see below) thanks to Swedish taxpayer guarrantees!

    Quote Originally Posted by post # 134
    "Spyker Cars will provide Saab with the backing required to compete as a competitive global brand along with an entrepreneurial leadership team sensitive to the uniqueness, heritage and individuality of the Saab brand.

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    Before fully committing himself to Spyker CEO Victor Muller had already turned two companies into pretty profitable organisations. (Wijsmuller and McGregor) Admittedly Spyker is a different story, but the guy is not a fool.
    "I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting, but it does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously." Douglas Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSXType-R View Post
    Then Spyker has a lot of work on its hands.
    Indeed, and if I'm being truly honest it won't be easy and it doesn't look nice. But let's not write the end of the story before it has actually happened.
    Lack of charisma can be fatal.
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    I am very very curious about how the situation will develop. I actually had Victor on the phone today, for 2 minutes. He was very tired as you can imagine.. He said he had 15 hours of sleep in 5 days!
    Before this weekend we will have a exclusive, long interview with him

    Personally though I have my doubts on how the situation will develop. Time will teach us. For the moment, Spyker-Saab is something to be proud of as a dutchie.
    Last edited by drakkie; 01-27-2010 at 09:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drakkie View Post
    I am very very curious about how the situation will develop. I actually had Victor on the phone today, for 2 minutes. He was very tired as you can imagine.. He said he had 15 hours of sleep in 5 days!
    Before this weekend we will have a exclusive, long interview with him

    Personally though I have my doubts on how the situation will develop. Time will teach us. For the moment, Spyker-Saab is something to be proud of as a dutchie.
    Give him our best regards when you talk to him. (and tell him to avoid understeer in all new Saab models....)
    "I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting, but it does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously." Douglas Adams

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