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    Perhaps a little bit too much rain...
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    Pos Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3
    1. Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:51.886 1:48.210 1:49.327
    2. Rosberg Mercedes 1:52.560 1:47.417 1:50.673
    3. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1:47.632 1:46.828 1:50.789
    4. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:49.479 1:47.085 1:50.914
    5. Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1:49.664 1:47.346 1:51.001
    6. Kubica Renault 1:46.283 1:46.951 1:51.051
    7. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:50.301 1:48.371 1:51.511
    8. Schumacher Mercedes 1:52.239 1:48.400 1:51.717
    9. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:48.467 1:47.792 1:51.767
    10. Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1:49.922 1:48.238 1:52.254
    11. Petrov Renault 1:47.952 1:48.760
    12. de la Rosa Sauber-Ferrari 1:47.153 1:48.771
    13. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:48.945 1:49.207
    14. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:48.655 1:49.464
    15. Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1:52.875 1:52.270
    16. Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:52.398 1:52.520
    17. Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:52.211
    18. Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1:52.884
    19. Alonso Ferrari 1:53.044
    20. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:53.050
    21. Massa Ferrari 1:53.283
    22. Chandhok HRT-Cosworth 1:56.299
    23. Senna HRT-Cosworth 1:57.269
    24. di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 1:59.977

    autosport.com - F1 News: Webber on pole in disrupted qualifying
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    Quote Originally Posted by LTSmash View Post
    Hence "legitimate" passing. Overtaking is so much more exciting when there is a real struggle to make the maneuver stick. Any given NASCAR race has meaningless overtaking because the field just bunches up again every 20 minutes; next you think of the last 10 minutes of the 2008 Belgian Grand Prix… that was truly exciting to watch even though it was only a few exchanged passes between Raikkonen and Hamilton.
    True, which is why I said "if all I cared about was passing." Not saying nascar is easy, but it's not my style of racing. Formula one makes a few passes much more exciting in my opinion. I was just a little fed up with people visiting every F1 thread and posting the same thing over and over, thus my bit of sarcasm about the egos. F1 is not the be all and end all of racing, but I still find it exciting in its own right. If other people don't thats fine, but maybe go to threads about racing that you do like.

    Any thoughts on who's going to make a charge from the back again with the disrupted qualifying? I don't know much about this track, is it one that's easier to pass on or will the slower traffic hold things up?
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    Apparently overtaking should be easy. And if the last race is anything to go by and the mixed conditions remain my vote goes to Alonso, to make a great recovery.
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    Intersting, Last week the BBC commentators Eddie Jordan/David Coutlhard said that it was clear that for the top cars to be able to overtake they need to be 3 SECONDS per lap faster. That can't be good for the sport as that's a HUGE differential.
    Rain/damp/wrong tyres is what's making it "exciting".
    I hope we get back to it being the driver skill that makes it worth watching.
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    I think its hard to put a solid figure on it. Different cars will need more time, the Ferrari's and Red Bulls for instance will probably need more time for the extra aero sensitivity whilst maybe a Lotus only needs to be a second per lap faster than a Virgin to overtake.

    I think part of F1's problem at the moment is they want overtaking to be hard. They keep mentioning Indy or NASCAR for making it too easy but alot of that could simply be put down to oval racing.
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    Well Indy puts a lot of emphasis on it even on road courses. They're doing the whole "passing power" button and everything. Nascar has a bunch of passing on their road courses, compared to F1, but there's a lot more contact too.
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    Red Bull takes a dominant 1-2 win:

    Pos Driver Team Gap
    1. Vettel Red Bull-Renault
    2. Webber Red Bull-Renault + 4.8s
    3. Rosberg Mercedes + 13.5s
    4. Kubica Renault + 18.5s
    5. Sutil Force India-Mercedes + 21.0s
    6. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes + 23.4s
    7. Massa Ferrari + 27.0s
    8. Button McLaren-Mercedes + 37.9s
    9. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1m10.6s
    10. Hulkenberg Williams + 1m13.3s
    11. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1m18.9s
    12. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth + 1 lap
    13. Alonso Ferrari + 2 laps
    14. Di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth + 3 laps
    15. Chandhok Hispania-Cosworth + 3 laps
    16. Senna Hispania-Cosworth + 4 laps
    17. Trulli Lotus-Cosworth + 5 laps

    Not classified/retirements:

    Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 46 laps
    Petrov Renault 32 laps
    Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 12 laps
    Schumacher Mercedes 9 laps
    Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 8 laps
    Glock Virgin-Cosworth 2 laps
    De la Rosa Sauber-Ferrari 0 laps

    autosport.com - F1 News: Vettel leads dominant Red Bull one-two
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    Well at least this time the RBs didn't break. Or crash.

    Excellent race by Alguersuari too. And who would've said the Renaults would be up there as well.
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    What a race for Hamilton, who steamed up through the grid in the first half of the race. Only to be stopped by the dirty air of a Force India.

    RBs consistent race pace is frightening.

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    Hamilton's was the case I think that backed DC/EJs comments from last week.
    You can be fast, but you need to be REALLY faster to be sure ... unless as we saw numerous times the slower driver basically over-drives themslves into being slower
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    Didn't watch the race so I'm genuinely asking.
    What about the Hamilton's move on the main straight when he changed his trajectory about 4 times as opposed to the 1 time allowed?

    Didn't he get some sort of penalty or something?
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    Where's it being reported as FOUR ?
    He made one VERY large sweep to one side and tenh almost immediately swept back to the other side ..... to get back on the right line for entry into the corner.
    So, he got "warned" because he wasn't evn anywhere near breakign the rules on "weaving".
    I tihnk everyone's being VERY careful as they realise that these outboard mirrors make it near impossible to know where a car is and can also be used as a "safety reason" for maneuvres BY an informal warning they raise the consciousness in the drivers until the teams reach agreement on solution.

    EDIT: Ignore all of the above.
    The difference of watching live while doing things around the house.
    Went and watched the highlights. BLOODY HELL that was clearly weaving. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8602555.stm
    3'28" 10 seconds of clear weave. I only saw the last part first time around.
    He'll no doubt argue it wasn't aggresive as it was fairly smooth.
    BUT he should be reprimanded for that. Points and cash.
    Let's see what having a race driver on the stewards means
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    On the TV news (VERY Ferrari oriented, quite boring), the said he moved to the dirty side of the track and back to the correct line twice, couldn't quite see the replay as I was eating, but it seemed as they were saying .
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    I suppose it depends on how you interpret the rules. Hamilton did change his line many times, many enough for it to look a bit ridiculous, but I assumed he wasn't trying to block Kubica but to get him off his tail, to which Kubica then responded by changing his line to stay in the slipstream.

    In my opinion, based on the above, a warning was in place but no penalty.

    Edit: my turn to correct myself, replace Kubica with Petrov.
    Last edited by twinspark; 04-04-2010 at 09:23 AM.

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