Video: Porsche 911 GT3 RS Rally Special

[henk4]

Works for me. But older? Jeezus man, these are '90s cars.

showing YOUR age here?

[csl177]

It's not that hard. Look at our sigs.

[Ferrer]

Don't worry guys, despite turning 25 this week I'm actually from 1927.

[csl177]

Don't worry guys, despite turning 25 this week I'm actually from 1927.

If that's the case, I'm from 1896.

[clutch-monkey]

some of our members were only just born in the 90's, there's a scary though

[Commodore GS/E]

NO, RM, sadly the Porsche on loose is as Porsche has always been on loose .... power-off oversteer
The Porsche layout works on tarmac because the big rears can guarantee the grip.
On loose, you lose that and so end up taking stages like a drift driver and as slowly

But if the RR layout is that bad on gravel, why have RR vehicles dominated rallying for that long (Simca, NSU, the Hillman Imp... I could go on)? I guess that having more weight on the driven wheels improves traction (which is why FR cars nearly disappeared from the sport). Also, Porsche has solved the "uncontrollable oversteer of death" problem now.

[Ferrer]

(Simca, NSU, the Hillman Imp... I could go on)? I guess that having more weight on the driven wheels improves traction (which is why FR cars nearly disappeared from the sport).

Odd choice of dominating rear engined cars...

I would have chose the 911, the A110 and the Stratos. Also they didn't exactly disappear. Up until the Quattro appeared cars like the Escort, 131 Abarth or Sunbeam Lotus were quite successful.

[csl177]

Also, Porsche has solved the "uncontrollable oversteer of death" problem now.

It's not uncontrollable. It requires skill... which has been replaced by computers.

[Commodore GS/E]

Odd choice of dominating rear engined cars...

I would have chose the 911, the A110 and the Stratos. Also they didn't exactly disappear. Up until the Quattro appeared cars like the Escort, 131 Abarth or Sunbeam Lotus were quite successful.

I've chosen those because they had no real competition in their concrete classes... the Simca Rallye was nearly unbeatable in the 1300cc class (at least that's what I've read so far).
And jeeez, I knew I had forgotten something important... of course, the Alpine

[Matra et Alpine]

Ferrer, Commodore is picking outstanding class leading cars of an earlier vintage than the others got things sorted out

Having rallied an Imp it is NOT an easy car at all and spent more time "in trouble" than "in control"

The BIG thing with those first set of outstanding rear engine rear wheel drive was power to weight. They were VERY light, very small cars competing against much larger cars. So there reasons for winning weren't jsut the engine position. Jsut as the Mini would prove about power/weight/size that time in FWD configuration.

The Stratos kind of proved the disadvantage of chasing more power in a rear engine RWD car and was spectacular but relatively slow on gravel.

The front engine rear drive progess with high revving , high power, small engines proved it's worth over the rear layout for everything other than pure tarmac ( and even some of those did with tarmac setups ). Then as noted the Quattro came along and upset the cart just as the likes of the 037 and 5 Turbo had pushed the limits on tarmac and in the case of the Lanci in the hands of the Finns showign "Promise" on gravel -- but check the records and see how many retireements and accidents they had off tarmac

Just some of the rasons I think