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  1. 07-05-2013, 05:47 AM #1
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    2013 German Grand Prix (July 5-7)

    Less than a week after the controversial British Grand Prix, the Formula 1 circus has arrived at the Nurburgring for the German Grand Prix. Pirelli has brought a new specification tyres as the drivers have threatened to withdraw from the race if more failures occur.

    In practice 1, it was business as usual with Hamilton leading the way from Rosberg:

    Pos Driver Team Time Gap Laps
    1. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m31.754s 25
    2. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m31.973s + 0.219s 25
    3. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m32.789s + 1.035s 22
    4. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1m32.822s + 1.068s 16
    5. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m32.956s + 1.202s 22
    6. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m33.065s + 1.311s 18
    7. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m33.139s + 1.385s 24
    8. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m33.213s + 1.459s 20
    9. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1m33.260s + 1.506s 27
    10. Sergio Perez McLaren-Mercedes 1m33.456s + 1.702s 18
    11. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m33.493s + 1.739s 18
    12. Nico Hulkenberg Sauber-Ferrari 1m33.810s + 2.056s 20
    13. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m33.901s + 2.147s 23
    14. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m33.976s + 2.222s 26
    15. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m34.025s + 2.271s 20
    16. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 1m34.200s + 2.446s 22
    17. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1m34.437s + 2.683s 24
    18. Charles Pic Caterham-Renault 1m35.674s + 3.920s 23
    19. Max Chilton Marussia-Cosworth 1m35.987s + 4.233s 19
    20. Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault 1m36.078s + 4.324s 23
    21. Rodolfo Gonzalez Marussia-Cosworth 1m37.459s + 5.705s 21
    22. Fernando Alonso Ferrari no time 2

    German GP: Lewis Hamilton leads Nico Rosberg in first practice - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com
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  2. 07-05-2013, 06:47 AM #2
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    Vettel goes fastest in FP2:

    Pos Driver Team Time Gap Laps
    1. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m30.416s 39
    2. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m30.651s + 0.235s 38
    3. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m30.683s + 0.267s 41
    4. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1m30.843s + 0.427s 32
    5. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m30.848s + 0.432s 27
    6. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m31.056s + 0.640s 39
    7. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m31.059s + 0.643s 41
    8. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m31.304s + 0.888s 35
    9. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m31.568s + 1.152s 37
    10. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m31.797s + 1.381s 40
    11. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1m31.824s + 1.408s 34
    12. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m31.855s + 1.439s 42
    13. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m32.055s + 1.639s 39
    14. Sergio Perez McLaren-Mercedes 1m32.086s + 1.670s 36
    15. Nico Hulkenberg Sauber-Ferrari 1m32.495s + 2.079s 39
    16. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1m32.762s + 2.346s 44
    17. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 1m32.879s + 2.463s 35
    18. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m32.880s + 2.464s 36
    19. Charles Pic Caterham-Renault 1m33.695s + 3.279s 38
    20. Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault 1m33.804s + 3.388s 40
    21. Jules Bianchi Marussia-Cosworth 1m34.017s + 3.601s 10
    22. Max Chilton Marussia-Cosworth 1m34.667s + 4.251s 39

    German GP: Vettel puts Red Bull on top in second practice - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com
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  3. 07-05-2013, 11:04 PM #3
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    F1 drivers are so spoiled and childish it's not even funny. So Pirelli messed up with the tire compounds? It happens in every form of racing but those drivers don't threaten to boycott races
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    Vettel topped final practice:

    Pos Driver Team Time Gap Laps
    1. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m29.517s 19
    2. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m30.193s +0.676s 19
    3. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m30.211s +0.694s 18
    4. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m30.621s +1.104s 16
    5. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m30.639s +1.122s 17
    6. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m30.671s +1.154s 19
    7. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m30.744s +1.227s 20
    8. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1m30.781s +1.264s 18
    9. Nico Hulkenberg Sauber-Ferrari 1m30.966s +1.449s 20
    10. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1m31.009s +1.492s 18
    11. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m31.326s +1.809s 22
    12. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1m31.405s +1.888s 20
    13. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m31.733s +2.216s 21
    14. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m31.855s +2.338s 18
    15. Sergio Perez McLaren-Mercedes 1m31.855s +2.338s 23
    16. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m31.898s +2.381s 19
    17. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m31.969s +2.452s 20
    18. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 1m32.036s +2.519s 23
    19. Charles Pic Caterham-Renault 1m33.230s +3.713s 19
    20. Jules Bianchi Marussia-Cosworth 1m33.470s +3.953s 22
    21. Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault 1m33.964s +4.447s 21
    22. Max Chilton Marussia-Cosworth 1m34.683s +5.166s 20

    German GP: Sebastian Vettel blitzes final practice for Red Bull - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com
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  5. 07-06-2013, 09:22 AM #5
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    Hamilton claims pole as Rosberg misses Q3 due to a bad strategy call:

    Pos Driver Team Time Gap
    1. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m29.398s
    2. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m29.501s +0.103s
    3. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m29.608s +0.210s
    4. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m29.892s +0.494s
    5. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1m29.959s +0.561s
    6. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m30.528s +1.130s
    7. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m31.126s +1.728s
    8. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m31.209s +1.811s
    9. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes No time set
    10. Nico Hulkenberg Sauber-Ferrari No time set
    Q2 cut-off time: 1m30.269s Gap **
    11. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m30.326s +0.501s
    12. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m30.697s +0.872s
    13. Sergio Perez McLaren-Mercedes 1m30.933s +1.108s
    14. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1m31.010s +1.185s
    15. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1m31.010s +1.185s
    16. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m31.104s +1.279s
    Q1 cut-off time: 1m31.681s Gap *
    17. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 1m31.693s +1.146s
    18. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m31.707s +1.160s
    19. Charles Pic Caterham-Renault 1m32.937s +2.390s
    20. Jules Bianchi Marussia-Cosworth 1m33.063s +2.516s
    21. Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault 1m33.734s +3.187s
    22. Max Chilton Marussia-Cosworth 1m34.098s +3.551s

    107% time: 1m36.885s
    * Gap to quickest in Q1
    ** Gap to quickest in Q2

    German GP: Lewis Hamilton denies Sebastian Vettel pole - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com
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  6. 07-07-2013, 05:46 AM #6
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    Worried that the lack of exploding tyres might spoil the fun in F1 races?

    Worry no more, the latest FIA trick is to send uncontrolled cars down the track at random times.

    Very exciting!
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    No exploding tyres, just cameraman seeking ballistic tyres.

    Apparently he's OK, but going to be sore for a while.

    A pretty good race all told.. some nice close racing, a close finish for Vettel with a close Finnish behind him, and Mr Gross Trousers managed to both hold off Alonso and not crash into anyone.
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    Grosjean is a much better driver than he is usually considered to be, though, and if his crew went for the same strategy as Kimi the result might have been a bit different, I think. He's a man of the race for me this time, even though I was eagerly hoping that a certain Finn would grab the victory in the end.

    P.S. Loved his 'I'm much faster than Kimi!' radio message
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    Vettel grabbed a long overdue home victory:

    Results - 60 laps:

    Pos Driver Team/Car Time/Gap
    1. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1h41m14.711s
    2. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault +1.008s
    3. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault +5.830s
    4. Fernando Alonso Ferrari +7.721s
    5. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes +26.927s
    6. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes +27.996s
    7. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault +37.562s
    8. Sergio Perez McLaren-Mercedes +38.306s
    9. Nico Rosberg Mercedes +46.821s
    10. Nico Hulkenberg Sauber-Ferrari +49.892s
    11. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes +53.771s
    12. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari +56.975s
    13. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes +57.738s
    14. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari +1m00.160s
    15. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault +1m01.929s
    16. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault +1 lap
    17. Charles Pic Caterham-Renault +1 lap
    18. Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault +1 lap
    19. Max Chilton Marussia-Cosworth +1 lap

    Retirements:

    Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 22 laps
    Jules Bianchi Marussia-Cosworth 21 laps
    Felipe Massa Ferrari 3 laps

    German GP: Sebastian Vettel resists Kimi Raikkonen for home win - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by faksta View Post
    Grosjean is a much better driver than he is usually considered to be, though, and if his crew went for the same strategy as Kimi the result might have been a bit different, I think. He's a man of the race for me this time, even though I was eagerly hoping that a certain Finn would grab the victory in the end.
    Grosjean is a pretty solid driver. The poor guy just has horrendous luck; in fact the only good luck the guy has is getting a second chance to race.
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